Also sabra namer and now m51
Guess whats common to them?
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EBR 1951: Compared to the M24 Chaffee, it should not be sitting at 5.3 Move it down to 4.3.
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If only the Namer Tsrikhon’s APS actually worked. It was added with a non-fuctional APS system which Gaijin… Trophy has not been working for nearly 1.4 years now. Its soon going to be two years before you fix trophy!
Suggestion,
RB NF
Ciclone class Torpedo Boat Ghibli 3.7 to 3.3/ or 3.0.
The vessel is still wilfully to high in BR, this ship should at least going down to 3.3 alongside better starter destroyer or go further an be placed at 3.0 akin to the SKR Groza the Project 2 which also started life as a torpedo boat.
It’s original BR was already terrible (also cost me chatting after a joke) & the reduction was an olive branch but it should still needs be lowered even more.
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Incredibly funny that the Merkava Mk.2D is moving up yet again
What was already a terrible vehicle is being shafted yet again for no discernible reason.
Being higher than the regular Merkavas for not much gain it was already quite weak at 10.0 and not meta, now it’s going to be one BR step lower than the Leopard 2A4? This is ridiculous.
It’s basically a huge middle finger to those that bought it.
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If you can’t dodge an Aim-9B you are either not paying attention, or you’re playing a Tu-4.
What makes the Su-7s worse than the buccaneer at 9.3, or the Q-5 early? Why should they be the same BR as the J29F, A32A, or th Hunter F.1?
The Yak-38 also has the flight characteristics of a sausage, and you can blame BR compression for the rest.
“and even better than the F-5E in some regards.”
nf-5a is the best f-5 ingame, it has highest top speed, accelerates fastest and also has the best energy retention at medium-high speeds.
id say its a direct upgrade in many regards, and not just some. its ridiculous that it was ever at 10.7 to begin with. 11.3 is not unimaginable, but the compression is pretty bad there. fcu & tcu deserve to be higher just because of their armaments.
also the chinese f-5a should be 11.0 too with its aim-9Ps.
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This has honestly got to be one of the most unnecessary BR change lists. Outside of a couple of exceptions, these changes just seem wholly unnecessary. Nobody really asked for most of them for GRB.
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Ground RB:
AMX-13 FL11: 4.3 => 3.7
Should not be sitting at 4.3 with the performance that it has currently.
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Vehicle - Strv 103C
Mode: Ground RB
BR: 9.0 > 8.7
Reasoning: The Strv 103C is already struggling at it’s current BR. The earlier versions at 8.0 are fine because they can somewhat rely on their armor against APDS and other earlier AP shells. Against APFSDS and more powerful HEAT-FS, it’s completely powerless. This problem is only worsened by the fact that pretty much every vehicle at 9.0-10.0 has full stabilisers, lightning fast reaction time and much more powerful cannons, while the Strv 103C has to stop before you can accurately aim which means it has a MUCH slower reaction time.
Even if the Strv 103C survives the first hit, it’s very likely that either the gearbox or the engines (or both) gets hit, and the aiming system is rendered completely powerless, i.e. there is nothing you can do to retaliate. Speaking of engines, all of the Strv 103s have two independent engines. Even if one is destroyed, the other one can function completely independently, something that is not modeled in War Thunder. Oh, and it doesn’t even get thermals, something that many other MBTs are starting to get.
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Mode: Ground Realistic Battles
Vehicle: ZA-35
BR Change with new round (dm23): 8.3 → 8.7
Reasoning: cuz the ITPSV Leopard carries the DM23 round at BR 8.7. Its mobility surpasses that of the ZA-35, though it has a lower top speed.
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F-5C (US)
10.7>10.0, remove countermeasures
Reasoning:
The F-5C is a pretty poor vehicle. Manueverable, sure, but also slow and the AIM-9Es aren’t gonna do much of anything at 10.7. Additionally as everyone by now knows the countermeasures are fictional and were never fitted nor planned to be fitted. They’re technically compatible if the US has wanted to, but a lot of things are “technically compatible if we wanted to” (AIM-7F for the British Phantoms, anyone?) and that’s not a very good argument. So, why not kill two birds with one stone by accurately modeling this aircraft and then putting it at a BR where it will actually thrive?
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Suggestion,
RB NF
Freccia class Motoconvertibili Freccia P-493 & Saetta P-494 4.7 to 4.3
There’s currently no point in a BR 4.7 for the supposed coastal forces, the current BR is a legacy BR from when everything hadsimple damage models & the Breda 40 mm/70 HE shells had double the TNT equivalent thanks to a bug.
Both vessels of the class should see a reduction.
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Vehicle - SIDAM 25
Mode: Ground RB
BR: 8.3 > 8.0
Reasoning: It is worse than all other SPAA around it’s BR. It has low amount of ammo, lacks search radar, lacks smoke grenades (most other 8.3 SPAA has access to this) and it cannot be used with the italian 8.0 lineup.
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You don’t know how simulator battles work, do you?
There’s no such thing as getting “uptiered” in air simulator, you can just wait till the bracket that your plane is at the top of goes live and wreak havoc. It’s always a predetermined set of vehicles that can play in a simulator bracket.
A-10C is too good for 11.7 with HMD, MAW and AIM-9M (and especially the AIM-9M since it can do HMD slaving with it easily)
Edit: Checking the spreadsheet again, you now have 4 days in a row where you can play 12.0 to 11.0 brackets, instead of previously 2 days every week. So don’t tell me you’re gonna have trouble playing 12.0 in A-10C in Air Simulator because the blue team gets every advantage in these brackets with the sparrows and SuperTEMPs.
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Agreed. Gaijin won’t let me like your post because of the dumb limit.
It’s funny that it’s a higher BR than the M24 while also being worse, and it’s direct proof that gaijin sucks at balancing because they rely only on player stats.
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Vehicle - SIDAM 25 (Mistral)
Mode - Ground RB
BR - 9.7 > 9.3
Reasoning: This vehicle is worse than most other 9.3 or 9.7 SPAA. It doesn’t have a search radar, it lacks smoke grenades, it has a very tall silhouette making it easy to hit, has low mobility, low ammo count and no thermal imaging. Almost every other SPAA at 9.3 has better capabilities than this vehicle, for example the chinese PGZ04A (thermals, seach radar, smoke grenades), the french SANTAL (search radar, thermals, smoke grenades, scouting) or the israeli Machbet (thermals). Not only that, lowering the SIDAM 25 (Mistral)'s BR to 9.3 will make it fit into Italy’s very populated 9.3 lineup, whereas the only SPAA Italy could use prior is the SIDAM 25 or the Shilka.
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If you make a post about it then I can atleast like your post.
Air RB
Q-5A: 10.0>9.7
It’s a mig-19 side grade, and it doesn’t deserve 10.0 while lacking missiles.
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25t Tank → 7.7 in Arcade Battle
Not as good as the Object 906.
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