Vehicle - OTOMATIC
Mode - Ground RB
BR - 11.3 > 10.7
Reasoning: The OTOMATIC is severely underperforming at it’s BR because it simply cannot shoot down the current CAS planes it meets at and around it’s BR, much less compete with other anti-air systems. Even in real life it only had an effective range of around 4km, which is FAR exceeded by the effective range of any strike aircraft over 10.7. Comparing the OTOMATIC to the 2S38 which is believed to take on the same role in real life, it lacks radar, but has a huge magazine (whereas the OTOMATIC can only shoot 29 rounds before having to reload), unlimited anti-armor ammunition (OTOMATIC has only 12 APFSDS shells available), better thermals, better mobility, much smaller size, laser warning system and the benefits of a light tank (Scouting and UAV).
doesn’t use DM23, and doesn’t have the dual feel for it like the Gepard/marksman (similar reason as XM246)
though there is an open bug report on its ammunition
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/E86xhgXyJzSi
APCI-T should have 100mm pen at 1km, would be a very nasty round, especially if put in a belt with SAPHEI
F-100D (French) → 9.3 in arcade battle. At the same level as the American F-100D.
Vehicle: Tornado IDS (1995)
Mode: Air RB
BR: 11.7 > 11.3
Reasoning: The Tornado IDS (1995) is the exact same aircraft as the regular Tornado IDS, other than the addition of guided bombs. The guided bombs only affect it’s effectiveness in Ground Battles, but has zero impact on Air Battles. Lowering it’s BR will also make it a lot less punishing in uptiers, and it won’t meet 12.7 aircraft.
AMX M4 6.7 seconds reload → 4 seconds.
Vehicle: Tornado IDS MLU (RET.8)
Mode: Air RB
BR: 11.7 > 11.3
Reasoning: The Tornado IDS MLU (RET.8) is the exact same aircraft as the regular Tornado IDS, other than the addition of guided bombs. The guided bombs only affect it’s effectiveness in Ground Battles, but has zero impact on Air Battles. Lowering it’s BR will also make it a lot less punishing in uptiers, and it won’t meet 12.7 aircraft.
Air RB
Q-5L: 10.0>10.7, add PL-5Bs and give it its historical CM count of 64.
This will differentiate it more from the other Q-5s, while also giving China another 10.X plane.
Sabra should remain at 10.0 and not be moved to 10.3. Why is the Sabra going to 10.3 when in every way its a downgrade compared to the AMBT which is still at 10.0.
Object 906 → 8.0 in arcade battle.
Autoloader, stab, APHE and HEAT-FS, good mobility.
AMX-50 (TO90/930) → 7.7 en Bataille arcade
Moins bon que le Object 906.
AMX 30 (all) Requires APDS that have been tested.
It’s sad bc it was a very powerful vehicle and now it’s just a piece of useless metan on tracks
AMX ELC bis : Tank destroyer → Light tank
Grb
M-51
6.3->6.0
Reason: this vehicle isnt overperforming its a slow peper sherman that have a single pro which is pen and nothing more
Grb
Namer 30
11.3->10.7
Reason: bad gun and ammo placments gets it disabled very easily
Only 4 unreliable spikes
No mobility whatsoever!
Incorrect armor
Giant profile
Same for the namer thrishkon
AMX-13 (HOT) Requires APDS that have been tested.
As a British main why tf is the Valentine 1 going up in BR? It’s already a pretty mediocre-bad tank and now it’s going to be the same BR as the Matilda and the Valentine XI which are both objectively better?
Also ratel
strela used to be 9.3 about a few years ago. i remember the horrors of those times. thats why the “the strela all over again” comment.
You misunderstood me.
I never claimed Gaijin doesn’t use stats for balancing, only that they might count in the difference in skill levels between nations before reading those stats. This is incredibly easy to do.
You can’t objectively say it’s better or worse, as everyone values certain pros/cons differently.
Yeah, I really wonder what that discretion could be, hmmm.
Naval RB: Dupleix (FR): Should be moved 5.7 => 5.3 where it would be a better fit.