Ah yea, forgot about the IRCCM missiles.
Honestly think the ADFs should have a foldered or a late model though with the AMRAAM, I’ve seen a lot of people unhappy their 12.7 F-16s won’t be 12.7 anymore
(A bit like the Tornado F.3 and F.3 late)
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Tornado F.3 Late
13.0>13.7
Reasoning: decompression and definitively better than the Harriers
my bad I forgot about that, it’s been a hot minute since I’ve flown the big back Frogfoots xD
Id say they are a direct upgrade (literally an Aim-9L that pulls a LOT more )
But they are a downgrade to the Aim-9M which is found at the same BR, on the same airframe for things like the Netz. Which is the issue.
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Not sure about that one chief, its an awful plane…
Bro its f15a with aim 7
Su 27 and 33 are way better
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Put trolling aside, if they gonna do the Sabra dirty like this, might as well:
M60 AMBT 10.0 ➡10.3
120S 10.3 ➡10.7
F-15A FM is giga-cracked
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Diabolical that the 2S38 isn’t going up. I know the average player for it is bad but come on.
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Yeah, it probably would be the better option
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F-4F ICE
13.0>13.7
Reasoning: decompression, moving ARH carriers away from SARH 3rd gens, and it’s better than the Harriers. Also, no, this isn’t the same BR as the F-15C etc. will be.
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I find 9Ls can go through flares a lot more than pythons… I still would prefer the pythons (and the very low up time for the proxy fuse is fun) but I don’t find they warrant the Kurnass 2000 at 12.3… thats stupid
And as for the Netz (tech tree) at 12.7, I don’t think P3 over 9L is worth the BR increase.
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better*
the PD radar makes a huge difference
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2S38 uptier should apply to RB as well.
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Also why do Tiger 2’s need a nerf?
Point 1 reeks of a half measure made appease people without really doing anything
Point 2 just seems asinine.
MSC, which is gaining strength thanks to Gaijin, has even less reason to play in French 10.7. We’re back to the situation before the update with only one tank in 10.7 and another in 11.0. Frankly, we can remove the 2a4 premium, it’s no longer useful in any line-up xD
Meanwhile, the Bmd 3 and 4, or even the 2S38, do not increase in Br. You really need to stop looking at the raw stats of vehicles and look at how many players are using them, because if one vehicle is played by only 1,000 players in one week and another by 10,000 players in the same week, the stats will be completely different. Imagine that the 1,000 players who have good games with that vehicle will have good stats, but if it is for the second vehicle, if only 1,000 players have good games and 9,000 do not have good games, this completely negates, or even reduces, the vehicle stats in the calculations and is simply not good and stupid in the current game.
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F16A Adf (USA), F16A Adf (Italy), F16A (MLU)
Br 12.7 - Br 13.0
Aim 120 A has been added
br 13.3 is not going to work, if u add Aim 120 A and Aim 9M would be perfect at 13.3 but a plane with Aim 9L in Br 13.3 its crazy.
And we can agrre 120s shouldt be uptierd right?
Its has m60 hull and uts super slow
So better to give sabra 1sec more reload and leave it
You increased the max BR to 14.3 in the worst way possible.
Decompress by splitting 13.0 into 2 groups, by moving every 13.3+ up by 0.3, and moving the Flankers, F-2, F-15A, Tornado F.3 late, and the F-4F ICE up to the new 13.3 BR bracket. This will massively help the game and decompress where it’s needed.
Also rip tiger IIs.
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Mode: Ground Realistic Battles
Vehicle: Lvrbv 701
9.7 > 9.3
Reasoning: The Lvrbv 701 is severely outclassed by most other SPAAs at its BR, with its only advantage being range. However, it struggles to make use of said range, as it lacks any means of easily detecting aircraft. It is best used against helicopters, but at 9.7, it starts facing helicopters that can hover close to its maximum range. This wouldn’t be an issue if it carried a search radar or IRST, but having to visually identify targets makes it significantly harder to use. Additionally, it is entirely outranged by helicopters in any sort of uptier, which, at 9.7, is not uncommon.
When faced with planes, it once again suffers due to its inability to quickly spot them. The Lvrbv 701’s poor turret traverse and limited elevation angles make it ineffective against most aircraft it will face, as they either climb too high or stay too low and close to be targeted efficiently.
When compared to SPAAs at its BR it is mediocre at best, when compared to anything higher BR it is entirely obsolete. With several other SAMs already found at lower BRs, I do not believe lowering the Lvrbv 701’s BR will suddenly make it broken, simply slightly more useable. You will still have to rely on eyeballs mk1 to spot and engage targets. (Not to mention that the French Roland is ALSO at 9.7, and it is simply better in every way.)
Additionally, at 9.3 it would fit much nicer into a lineup, as currently the Strf 9040B is the only other 9.7 ground vehicle Sweden has access to, ignoring premiums.
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100% identical seeker iirc. So they should be the same in that regard. Just that maybe the 9Ls keep the flares out of the seeker a little longer as its pulling less G if you lead the missile
Netz should be 12.7, its dumb. Especially with the F-16AM at 13.0 that clowns it, Let alone the Gripen A.
Kurnass 2000… Its tough, with far far weaker Phantoms at 12.0.
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