J37c
Air rb
11.3 → 11.7
It has a 11.7 kit at11.3, should go up
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Are we getting SL refund for vehicles going up-down in BR bracket? Am I have to waste millions of SL to re-ace crews again? Why does Gaijin gets angry when players accidentaly get free premium time (few days) while players are not allowed to get refund of any kinds (uptiered-gutted premium-tt vehicles)? Do I have to remake all my line-ups again? Are we getting SL refund anytime soon? Do I get compensation for SL due to BR change. Do I ge…
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No :3
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Not quite reasonable in my opinion.
Unless F4F ICE and the late Viggen move up as well.
Mode: Air Realistic Battles
Vehicle: Yak-30D
BR Change: 8.7 → 8.3
The Yak-30D is very comparable to the MiG-15 series of aircraft, having similar flight performance and armament. Notably, the Yak-30 is slightly more manouevrable in terms of turn-rate than the MiG-15bis and MiG-15, and also has better control authority. On the other hand, it has inferior armament and is a fair bit slower with notably worse energy-generation than the MiG-15bis AND even the MiG-15 model. Its dogfighting ability is excellent, but on the whole it is around as capable as the MiG-15 (the non-bis version). These two used to be the same BR. I am not advocating for the Yak-30D to be 8.0 since I firmly disagree with the MiG-15 being 8.0, but I think 8.3 is fair, and is in alignment with the Yak-23, a similar vehicle, being moved down not too long ago.
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Vehicle: F-15C MSIP II, F-15J(M) & Baz Meshupar
Gamemode: Air Realistic & Air Simulator
BR Change: 13.7 —> 14.0
Reason: These aircraft are just barely weaker than the now 14.3 aircraft and it is difficult to justify them being a lower BR than them, but can just barely be done. However, it does not justify them being 0.7 BR lower and they should be increased to 14.0 to further improve decompression. These 3 aircraft outperform almost all other 13.7s by a significant margin
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You clearly have not olayed Eurofighter then.
Why not give Su-34s its R-77-1s since its also going to 13.7?
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What about F-15E?
Well, I agree that it isn’t that great, but it got multiple small buffs recently, that could have helped it to tip the scales over to 6.7:
- Smaller turning radius
- Green camo
- Better machine gun angles
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I can’t see the justification for moving the PT-16/T14 to 11.0. It doesn’t have smoke, thermals, uses DM23 and only has a 9 shell ready rack. Meanwhile, the Type 90 (which is only 0.3 higher) gets smoke, DM33, thermal, .50cal, 18 shell ready rack, suspension control, thicker armour, LWS and you get 2 other versions in the tech tree.
It needs to be moved back down or the very least given DM33 and smoke to compensate.
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Oh damn, missed it wasnt moving up at all. You are right
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Dude, these planes are crap. They’re fodder in realistic air combat, if you have problems with them, go get your hands and head treated.
Mode: Air Realistic Battles
Vehicle: G.56
BR Change: 6.3 → 6.0
This another in a series of overtiered Italian props. The G.56 handles well, and has great armament, and benefits from the high winrates seen by minor nations at this tier, but it is completely outlcassed in terms of energy and speed when compared to 6.3 and even 6.0 vehicles. It would be nice to see a breath of life being given to Italian props.
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That’s actually a fair suggestion. Giving players a lump sum of SL whenever a new next round of BR changes to the game to help offset recrewing costs makes sense and is fair. 250K SL seems reasonable and it doesn’t hurt/cost Gaijin anything. It only needs to happen at a BR change wave.
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Vehicle: F-15E & F-15I Ra’am
Gamemode: Air Sim & Air Realistic
BR Change: 14.0 —> 14.3
Reason: The F-15E is quite happily able to fight and counter the other 14.3 aircraft such as the Typhoon and Rafale if played correctly and should be the same BR as these aircraft as the F-15E/I are quite happily able to match, if not outperform all other aircraft in BVR at this moment in time. This would also prevent these aircraft from being seen by the substantially weaker aircraft at 13.0 and allow for 13.7 to be properly decompressed
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Dont tell them they forgot the Kungstiger
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Seeing how you reduced the KV2s relosd by 10 secs, you could do the same with the T30, also give it realistic pen. Lastly, give M900 to the AGS, its super underpowered.
China’s Shenyang F 5 should be 9.3 > 9.0
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Vehicle: Magach 5
Game mode: Tank RB
Br: 8.0＞8.3
Reason: You guys just forgot to move Magach 5 to 8.3(rb), It is just an Israeli version of German M48A2GA2: both 2 re L7-Patton with DM23/M111, but the German one is at 8.3, its Israeli C&P version is at 8.0, this is unfair, imbalance, and rediculous.
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