Planned Battle Rating changes for August 2025 (updated 16:00, 15.08)

Mode: ARB
Vehicle: P-51H
BR change: 6.3 → 6.7
Reason: Incredibly dominant plane that warps the late prop brackets with its flight performance that can only realistically be countered by bad P-51H pilots, other comically overpowered planes such as the BI, or dogpiling it with jets.

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The ZA-35 is more effective to do so, so should it be 9.7? It’s faster.

Oh right, the Beglit is borderline a crewless turret, the bmp3 / bmds aren’t lol, my mistake.

The BMD-4 is faster yes, NOT the BMD-4M (it shares the same transmission as the BMP3).

It’s a good joke that the bmds can be 10.0 to you but the cv9030 can be 9.3, the cv9030 has been known to tank a lot of damage, sure it could be argued to be 9.0, but it would clobber 8.0 light tanks.
You also forget, the cv9030 gets darts, the bmp, and bmd don’t. It’s called trade offs.

I’m glad you agree that the BMD-4 (Not the BMD-4M) is more powerful than the BMP-3, you’ve just agreed with me whether or not you realized it.

Yes the BMD-4 is better, but not as vastly as you make out.

T-64 is meh, and the Kriz is only good on a handful of maps, In very select positions/ situations. I’ve spaded that thing, the only thing that is worse is the Sturm S.

T-64 is made worse by the terrible, and extremely loud lawnmower engine sound

Mode: ARB
Vehicle: Yak-3U
BR change: 5.7 → 6.0 or 6.3
Reason: Another plane that laughs at the late prop bracket and dominates it with incredible UFO performance. Fits the <5000m furball meta with excellent climb, energy retention, acceleration, turn and top speed giving it options to deal with the vast majority of planes it can face.

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I know. It’s a situational vehicle, that’s fine. My most memorable times in it are long-range heli snipes. I’m glad you agree that it’s silly to have BMD4 at 9.3, while the Khriz sits at 9.7, though.

Mode: ARB
Vehicle: Spitfire F Mk.22
BR change: 6.7 → 6.3
Reason: With the Mk.24 Spitfire and its 150 octane fuel moving down to 6.7, the Mk.22 Spitfire loses out on its slightly more forgiving matchmaking and is now strictly worse. When compared to the Mk.14 Spitfire, it gains small improvements that gives it more responsiveness at high speed, energy retention, linear speed and 4x Hispanos. However this all comes with an increase in weight. More importantly the Mk.14 sits at a far more forgiving 5.7 BR. As is typical of Griffon Spitfires, they all lose significant amounts of speed from radiator drag which is even more painful when having to face jets more often.

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The bmd-4 can be a 9.7 it is the better vehicle. But the BMP-3 and BMD-4M do not share the mobility of the BMD-4.

But if we really want to get into it, the 57MM on the Beglit is far superior, not only does it get Proxy fuse, something the Bmps / bmds don’t. It’s 57mm is vastly better, breaking barrels, and tracks in far less shots than the 30mm the counterpart has. It also has good ATGMs, yes it has to be used stationary to fire the ATGMs, but the Beglit shares more in common with the 2s38, and not the bmd-4.

As you can clearly see the Beglit nerf, caused the bmp-3 / bmd nerfs.

I agree the bmp-3 should be 9.3, and so should the bmd-4m

Why Gaijing is so mean for some nations?
The France for example…
We already have leclercs been nerfed in almost every aspect, now we have MSC on 11.0 with 6sec reload, not 5, and amx-32 on 9.7 for absolutely NO reason…
That’s just unreasonable bumps in br for half a tanks…
What are you guys doing?! (ノ゜ー゜)ノ

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Honestly, I have to admit that it’s a bit absurd to talk about Br changes for individual ground vehicles, when we should be making bigger and better maps, fixing the damage model, adjusting the penetration calculator, giving tanks their historical bullets, and after all that changing the Br for almost all ground vehicles in the game. You mention that a certain ground vehicle should have more Br, and the only thing that happens is that if it were raised it would be unbalanced with other vehicles that also have a less than correct Br, but that are that way because of the problems of the game itself, not because of the vehicle.

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Mode: All
Vehicle: Hornet Mk.1 and Mk.3
Change: Resolve fuel starvation issues from negative-G/inverted maneuvers
Reason: The Merlin 131 engines have down-draught fuel induction systems which should mean that this issue should not happen with these planes. Before the Leviathans update the engines functioned as normal.

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this is false

timecode is 0:16

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This ploblems will last forever… Unless Gaijing will get a good motivation for this, but there will never be a motivation… The problem is that players don’t mind about anything except vehicles ┐('~`;)┌

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French bias - but yeah something fishy with this.

I’m new to france only having just unlocked all the leclercs not to long ago but playing through my immediate thoughts are to spread out the end tier line ups as quite frankly these are basically the same tanks and not much different to the leopard series or even the type 90’s/TKX(p)with a 2 second worse reload so why these are all dumped at 12 is kind of weird.

MSC should stay at 10.7

The S1 and S2 could easily be 11.3 - 11.7 with just the G1 round from the AMX32, AMX40 to alleviate whatever fears people have with the F1 round

The SXXI and the Azur can still be 12.

This spreads the end tier french tree out rather than just immediately dumping you into 12 with the S1.

So basicslly i get the following 2 choices continue running the MSC at 12.0 with my leclercs where it does admittedly do ok there, or run with the 10.7 2a4 and run a line up which will probably be uptiered to 12.0 anyway due to the frequency of uptiers the msc see’s currently just because the msc is then 11.0 with a lineup that really shouldn’t be seeing 12.0.

So basically you’re damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

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the rafale is literally the best performing top tier aircraft right now, with technically artificial buffs.

Just play the stock MSC at 12.0.

A.K.A. the first two leclercs experience one year ago before they gave them stock darts.

No reason for BMP-3 to share the same BR as those two.

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Yeap, but leclercs still are nerfed… The most absurding for me is that thay didn’t get spoleliners to this day. Like, dude, bug report was accepted a year or even 2 years ago… But when something like this hapens to nation like Germany or USSR, they are adding thing for the next day, that’s frustratiing me so much. And the top leclercs (SXXI and AZUR) should get better shell…

Yeap, i’m trying to enjoy MSC before this nerf… But this dump is silly anyway

But it’s not even a great stock round either :o
The whole french BR’ing is just bizarre

It really isn’t.

Whatever community you can gather I’m pretty confident they don’t come even close to thousands upon thousands of players playing it and getting their stats recorded by SS.

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