This ploblems will last forever… Unless Gaijing will get a good motivation for this, but there will never be a motivation… The problem is that players don’t mind about anything except vehicles ┐('～`;)┌
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French bias - but yeah something fishy with this.
I’m new to france only having just unlocked all the leclercs not to long ago but playing through my immediate thoughts are to spread out the end tier line ups as quite frankly these are basically the same tanks and not much different to the leopard series or even the type 90’s/TKX(p)with a 2 second worse reload so why these are all dumped at 12 is kind of weird.
MSC should stay at 10.7
The S1 and S2 could easily be 11.3 - 11.7 with just the G1 round from the AMX32, AMX40 to alleviate whatever fears people have with the F1 round
The SXXI and the Azur can still be 12.
This spreads the end tier french tree out rather than just immediately dumping you into 12 with the S1.
So basicslly i get the following 2 choices continue running the MSC at 12.0 with my leclercs where it does admittedly do ok there, or run with the 10.7 2a4 and run a line up which will probably be uptiered to 12.0 anyway due to the frequency of uptiers the msc see’s currently just because the msc is then 11.0 with a lineup that really shouldn’t be seeing 12.0.
So basically you’re damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
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the rafale is literally the best performing top tier aircraft right now, with technically artificial buffs.
Just play the stock MSC at 12.0.
A.K.A. the first two leclercs experience one year ago before they gave them stock darts.
No reason for BMP-3 to share the same BR as those two.
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Yeap, but leclercs still are nerfed… The most absurding for me is that thay didn’t get spoleliners to this day. Like, dude, bug report was accepted a year or even 2 years ago… But when something like this hapens to nation like Germany or USSR, they are adding thing for the next day, that’s frustratiing me so much. And the top leclercs (SXXI and AZUR) should get better shell…
Yeap, i’m trying to enjoy MSC before this nerf… But this dump is silly anyway
But it’s not even a great stock round either :o
The whole french BR’ing is just bizarre
It really isn’t.
Whatever community you can gather I’m pretty confident they don’t come even close to thousands upon thousands of players playing it and getting their stats recorded by SS.
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Well at least you can kill stuf with it. Try just as a joke playing a match or two at top tier with just HEAT. You literally cannot do anything against anyone.
They are both outrageous, and as such, both are being nerfed.
Both are outrageous again. Both are being nerfed.
The BMD-4M is still significantly faster than the BMP-3. The BMP-3 also has an inferior autoloader when it comes to using the missiles, and as a result, it is worse than the BMD-4M even if they did share mobility, which they do not. With a 16-second difference between the two reload rates, it deserves a BR difference.
And, once again, I believe the BMD-4 should be 10.0. I do not mind the BMD-4M being 9.7.
The CV9030 and CV9035 are some of the worst-performing vehicles for their BR bracket. The BMP-2 has 3 times the fire rate and often better survivability despite being 8.7. From using both, I can guarantee you that the BMP-2 series is better in-game.
Significantly slower firerate matters. The Bushmaster series is slow, easy to react to, and does not spall much due to how post-penetration for APFSDS works in this game.
Both BMD-4 tanks are better than the BMP-3.
Nuke farming in under 2 minutes regularly is pretty fucking insane IMO.
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That is a big problem tbh… And idk how people will be supposed to play on MSC in stock against 12.0… Thats just crazy, man(ヽ´ω`)
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Bmd4 is straight up a 10.0 tank without darts at 9.3
I believe that which makes the MSC change even more bizarre because now it’s being placed in a bracket while progressing up the french tree that even before you get to the leclercs you’re seeing 12.0 with the only accompanying tank being possibly a 2a4 or even just the amx40 from 10.0.
Yeah I don’t know. I hate the fact that I could have had an actual 12.0 lineup for france way faster since the leclerc s2 is foldered and cheaper. But I did not want to go through the HEAT stock grind again. And then when I am 10k away from the SXXI gaijin decides to finally give the first 2 leclercs stock darts.
Like come on for fucks sake I could have researches the s2 twice in that time I spent playing a single leclerc lineup.
I think, if Gaijing want to send MSC to 11.0 they need to buff him a bit… Give him a 5sec reload and a normal stock shell, and then, on my opinion, it will have some sense┐(￣ヘ￣）┌
I feel like moving it to 11.0 defeats the whole purpose of the msc. It was a good addition not bc it was a leo2a4 upgrade (barely) but bc it actually gave france a lineup other than 7.7. Now its just scattered again
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Yeah in a way. But we all knew it was not a 10.7 tabk to begin with.
Check the leclerc thread if you wish. But they put it at 10.7 with an artificially nerfed reload just so they could then move it up to 11.0.
We saw it coming but it’s the dishonest inplementation that sucks. It could have been 11.0 from the start with the actual 5sec reload. But no. It had to be 10.7 so the stupid copy paste leopard and the stupid premium leopard can have a lineup.
None of this would be an issue if they had not decided to completely unnecessarily add the leopards.
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I mean even give it an ahistorical worse apfsds would be better than stock heat.
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Yeap, and why the fuk leo 2A4NL doesn’t have a dm13?!
Oh… sorry, my bad. It has dm13