Planned Battle Rating changes for August 2025 (updated 16:00, 15.08)

Yes, if people play vehicles to their strengths they are strong, but new players don’t know that, again its why so many bad minor nation vehicles go up, they lack the influx of bad players to keep mediocre vehicles low.

Its also why vehicles like the KV-1B/E stayed at 4.0 for so long, fresh KV-1E players every year.

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You’re trying to find a pattern that doesn’t exist, if you cant see whats right in front of you i cant help you.

F-4S is a good example of this. One of the best aircraft at 12.0, and yet has the lowest performance of all 12.0s. Lower than even in the F-104ASA

Fakour 90 go woosh

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I’ve shown copy/paste premium vehicles that perform very similar to their TT counterparts, so I think you’re the only one here that can’t accept what’s very easy to see, simply because it doesn’t suit your narrative.

Evry nation is different, i doubt people flock to the prem ariete given the well known problems they have, so you have dedicated Italian players using it to grind some extra money or already skilled players who buy it. Again theres a reason you see good vehicles do poorly and its because a lot of new players buy their way to top tier.

Thats fine, you have your opinion and i have mine, seems i struck a nerve with you so I apologize for getting you upset over this minor issue

Yep, and its most often the US, German and USSR premiums for that

Hell no. It has high fuel burn and has worse energy retention than a MiG-21 (without good engines to regain speed fast).

Sim gameplay with this is sneek up on someone and fire 9Ps, hoping they hit. Maybe you get a kill or two, but then you gotta RTB and hope you have the fuel to do so

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Doing my part to up BR the Scimitar o7 (@ a 2.2 k/d, which isn’t far from my Fox k/d of 2.6)

Counterpoint it looks cool so it should go up

Yeah that is a pretty hard to defeat counterpoint.

T-2 was trainer for F-4 (it looks like a mini F-4)

I think they should add Fuji T-1, which is basically a mini F-86 which it was a trainer for

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Reminds me when a group of people played the CL13 for a month with 6+ KD’s and it went up the next month to 9.7 lol

The amount of players doing well with it in their 11.7 lineups disagrees with you

People do flock to Click Bait but somehow it has similar stats to HC.

Don’t worry, I’m not getting upset over sending a few screenshots, you might learn something new, who knows.

Im gonna be real US players are simply bad, yes the abrams have problems but far too many people have no idea how to play the Abrams and wind up getting killed and screaming Russian bias.

Also i was simply adding to your point with my own view, if you wish to see it that way thats fine.

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Trying to lower BRs in a minor nation is like trying to keep rent low in a bad neighborhood.

Every few games I make sure to play as horribly as I possibly can in my Italian vehicles so I average out my numbers

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If only the HVG could get some bad players sob

Average player from all major nations isn’t good, but this CB vs HC example just showcases that highly popular premiums don’t have an issue performing as good as their TT variants, even if they’re being spammed by level 6 players.

So saying that 2S38 is only at 10.3 with such bad stats only because it’s a premium vehicle is disingenuous. Same as not putting any blame on the vehicle itself.

It most definitely is still because of bad players, again most major nations can have excellent vehicles but if a player refuses to learn to play their vehicles they will do terribly and scream x nation is OP. Thats how it works, its why we have Major nation players crying about their vehicles being bad when its just a case of skill issue.

The average US player is normally not a player who grinded the TT but rather someone who bought a premium and grinded the abrams, some may get good but most wont and then they will try to play the vehicle outside its strengths then cry when they get killed. Its an unfortunate case but it happens and it definitely isn’t exclusive to the US. They just happen to whine the most about a plethora of things.