Planned Battle Rating changes for August 2025 (updated 16:00, 15.08)

Never thought of ± 0.7 BR uptier/downtier, but now that I think about it, it sounds like it would fix a lot

1 Like

I have been writing about this for some time now, in fact it should be ±0.4. Perhaps some one from the moderators can pitch in here and provide pro and contra arguments to redefining what a br up tiering means and we can as a community agree to something and present it to the developers.

1 Like

I mean if it gets moved to 13.3 we can compare it to all 13.3 aircraft instead of only to one of them.

So that is what I’m doing, and not all of them are that favorable.

That BR compression for the match maker would fix nothing because there are very few compressed BRs left.
For air it’s 9.3 [impacting 7.0 - 10.3] and 13.0 [impacting 10.7 - 14.0].
With 14.3 becoming a thing that means 13.0 has a chance of being decompressed which means 10.7 - 14.3 is pretty much saved in the long run, and that leaves 9.3 as the final [with current knowledge] compressed BR for air.

1.0 BR decompression for the match maker allows for 4 slots for vehicles to be balanced instead of World of Tanks style 3 slots.

Decompression is less work than compressing the match maker.

I agree.

Maybe one of Gaijin’s “geniuses” should actually sit down and spend a whole match trying to destroy a heavy cruiser with the Z47 - without it firing back at them.

It’s called a test drive.
Doesn’t seem like anyone over there has ever tried that option at all.

The turrets of the is2 series are notoriously cramped. Its so cramped that tankers would struggle to even move around. Couple it with a massive shell and thats why you have a 20 second reload

2 Likes

Mode: Ground AB and RB
Vehicle: M-51 and M-51 W
BR Change: 6.3 → 6.0

The M-51 is severely penalized by lack of ability to shoot through grass, trees, fences etc, lack of stabilizer, lack of armor, bad mobility, high profile, bad damage (non APHE) etc.

6.3 would be justified if it had APDS, which at this BR, acts the same as HEAT but with ability to shoot through things and higher velocity.

The excess penetration is just overkill.

1 Like

Repeating issues are illegal on WT forums now, i presume. I dont really think you realize how many jets rely on TWS to be useful at 13.0+ but i guess it isnt an issue according to you. Just because its repeated doesnt make it invalid.

…so adding on more issues is illegal now i guess. 16 out of 40 13.0+ jets dont have HMS. Guess which 16 out of 40 struggle a fair bit at or above their BR? Also, you don’t have to be condescending.

60 countermeasures, even if you took all chaff, would be barely enough to get by at the start of the match, when you have 1-3 missiles coming towards your way. Not to even mention later in the game. “But hug the groud-: doesn’t always work. “But notch the missile-” circumstances may not allow me to notch the missile” “just hide behind a mountain-” not all maps have mountains or suitable terrain to vanish behind, not to mention you won’t always be in a position to do so.

…and? The APG-66(V)1 is subpar compared the the (V)2/2A, (V)3, APG-68, APG-63, Zhuk, ELM-2052, N011M, the AWG-9, APG-65, APG-73, CAPTOR-M. Need I go on? Its not a bad radar, it just isnt as good as it needs to be at 13.3.

The MiG-29s radar is good. Not as good as the Rafale’s radar, but to say its basically useless and trash is a blatant lie. Its RWR is as good as the ALR-69, so no, the avionics are not garbage. The N010 Zhuk is most likely better than the APG-66(V)1, at minimum

Yes, the MiG-29 FM isn’t as good as it should be, does not mean its utterly useless, once again. You act like the Il-28 can be it in a dogfight. It wouldn’t be able to beat a clean, min fuel, aced F-16A block 10, sure, but the HMS will allow you to close the FM gap via HOBS missiles.

From what I can see, you’re an average player with no Su-30SM and F-15E? Bait is not meant for average player bro

Don’t even try bro, he is on tweaker mode. I try explaining to him calmly and with reason, and then I just get absolute nonsense spit back

1 Like

I try to give people the benefit of the doubt, to my own peril i guess…

1 Like

??

I’ve played a ton of jets at this BR. The F-16’s not having TWS is not going to severely dampen their performance at 13.3 when their playstyles would not involve long range BVR

Ok? I said it was repeated because its the same point twice, not that the point itself wasn’t fine.

What? Nobody said this and I’m not gonna continue to address it if u bring it up again

I’m not…?

??? I have routinely used 60CM vehicles at 12.7-13.3 and they are not that difficult to get by with. You just can’t get into BVR early game unless u plan to go cold early which is low PK larping at that point.

Works very reliably within the circumstances of which it should be employed, which is to say, recognize the situations where it does and doesn’t work and apply your tactics accordingly

This is your fault and a misplay

yeah, but if they are there you can use them

Position issue

It will never cause any issues besides lacking TWS. There are far worse radars at the BR. You also just said the AWG-9 was better so uhhhhhh…???

No? It’s decent. That’s it. It has just as many bad qualities as good.

The FM is WELL BELOW most aircraft at the BR. It routinely will cause you issues.

1 Like

agree

This post was flagged by the community and is temporarily hidden.

1 Like

Love the current trend of calling anything you disagree with ragebait.

We are just having discussions on this forum. There is no reason to be getting upset.

1 Like

It’s not that I disagree with you bro, you are just plain wrong

If you are struggling that much against Gen 1 F16s in a SMT, it might be time to start thinking of a possible skill issue on your end

1 Like

so explain how

I don’t form opinions based on me struggling in something.

You are free to thunderskill my IGN anytime.

1 Like

Tell me how a Gen 1 F16 with 9M would win against MiG 29 SMT in current meta

(Actually we already have an example with OCU and it is the worst F16 right now(

1 Like

What relevance does this have to our previous conversation? When did I imply a 9M only F-16 wins this?

Edit for your Edit: The MiG-29SMT gets slaughtered by the F-16 OCU

1 Like

When did you not? This whole thing started as you got mad I recommend Italian F16 gets 9L/i-1 and that would be “crazy OP” at 13.3.

I also made a comprise by removing 2x AMRAAMs and you said it’s not a comprise, but makes it better

1 Like