Planned Battle Rating changes for August 2025 (updated 16:00, 15.08)

You can see on the right that that dispenser is x30cm, and that left dispenser is x15 countermeasure dispenser.

after the update both italian and us ADF will have 30 regular + 15 large instead of 60 regular cm, and chinese one will have 30 regular and 30 (15+15, duh) large cm

530F*

So define “statisticly”
530f are amazing? No
But they are usable and better then nothing and also better then r60 which very common in this br.

It doesnt trigger rwr its a huge advantge if u cant use them completle u are the problem

The “kit” you are talking about is useless

what about the Belgian F-16AM cm i don’t seem to find where did they put 120 cm? i only the 30 cm +15 lcm part

Vehicle: Fw 190 A-4
Game Mode: Air RB / Air Realistic
BR change: 4.0 to 3.7
Reasoning:

The plane is basically a one trick pony (BnZ & BnRun) and gets outperformed by most 4.0 and 3.7 fighters. The plane has two main strengths:

  1. Lack of severe high speed compression combined with with a very good dive speed for BnZ
  2. Very good high speed agility (with flaps) which allows them to hit enemies trying to dodge a head-on

Seeing (and fighting) this aircraft almost daily it is imho obvious that the plane is a pure support fighter in Air RB. From a neutral perspective the majority of their kills are 3rd party kills whilst diving into furballs - or the results of full committed head-ons.

The current BR of 4.0 looks justified if you assess just the burst mass (which is quite impressive) - if you observe how they perform vs highly popular BR 3.7 fighters it seems obvious that any P-51 C or Ki-44 II are better suited to play the role of a fighter in Air RB.

  • As written in another post in this thread - the ability to bring guns on target is decisive, and not how many guns you have. So even if we put the fact aside that the MG 151/20 (and ofc the 2 MG/FFM) has currently the worst ballistics of all 20 mm cannons within the game, the flight performance in general puts you between a rock and a hard place.

  • So if you try to get above 6 km to be somehow safe from from the omnipresent Ki-44s and Yak-3s you get caught by a plain P-51 C (with its dozens of premium brothers) or any 3.7 P-47 which are both faster and are able to kill you with a few AP-IT hits.

  • At least in theory the Fw 190 A-4 has a superior roll rate, but imho the average wt pilot is unable to use this advantage.

  • Just to be complete: The artificial engine nerf added by gaijin some time ago made it even more complicated to make the plane successful.

So from my pov the rather poor global stats for KpS and KpD are no accident - the plane needs a lower BR.

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Well first of all they have a bad time to target due to their poor accelartion. That wouldnt be an issue normally since you need to actually evade radar missiles with great effort. But the 530f has the most horrid seeker known to man with a pulse seeker. So it takes one click off the chaff button to defeat complettly.

To u its useless
To a decent player its usable and u can very much get kills with it
I played the f1c to grind the french tt ik what im talking about

player perofrmance doesnt change how good a missile is. A great player cna get an ace with r60ms. Does that make it the best missile

Fixed that for you.

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Huh? 530f have decent acceletion this isnt the problem its the dragg
Did u even played the f1c?
And yes it can be chaffed easily but u forget it doent trigger the rwr
u lunch it against mig 23 and expect it to act like r24?
No u should use it like u use aim 9 with all aspect seeker
Find unaware target especially in top down mode and u will start seeing consistent kills

im gonna assume the belgian A adf has just incorrect cm set, which by the looks of it, should be 30 + 15

and about 120 cm on AM, i have no clue.

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I think it’s fair to say that German mains(exclusively) have a wide skill gap compared to others, given that almost all German ground vehicles have both point and click guns, and amazing armour. You fundamentally don’t have to play as well as, say, French or Italian mains.

Yes its a mid plane at best

No

No

They still get a lock warning and will panic chaff.

I am sorry for all this we are getting hella sidetracked. All am saying is the 530f might be useful sometimes but its not a good enough upgrade over the kit to make it better than having an actual fm.

I think its fair to say that you are delusional and maybe need to compensate?

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thank god

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T54E2 - I think it should be moved down to 7.3 since its shell is prone to ricochet and low spall, has no armor at all. Feels like a downgrade from m48. Also a long reload

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he is right, you are wrong ghostmaxi

Rly?2 magics 2 at 12.0 are mid?
So how exacly do u want them to be 12.3?

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There is ur problem
U use them as radar missiles with search seeker or whatever it caled i forgot it

No they dont unless ur fire on aware enemy thats alone
Try to fire on ppl that are focused on someting on in middle of furrball

U combined the stats and yes the meta favors kit not fm and m2k fm isnt that good so it would face fox 3 and r27er constantly(it will face it in 12.0 too but less)

Yes the plane is mid thats why its 12.0 even with the 12.7 missiles.

I said the plane was mid not the magics

No they get a lock warning. The radar of the mirage is not a pulse seeker