Excuse me what? Mirage 2k isn’t much better than MiG-21? Holy… i don’t even know how to respond to this take…
Mode: Ground RB
Vehicle: Roiikat Mk 1D
Change: Reaload from 6.7s → 6.3s
76mm with lackluster spall and same reload of the 105, same br of the vikers mk11, buff reaload from 9rpm to 9.5
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They have similar accelertion
Both delta so bad rotation
Mig 21 have better high speed pull and mirage have better low speed pull
Ofc mirage is better overall but considering the kit and full 1.0 br diffrance then yea it makes sanse
what are yall arguing about
what br you think the m2k should go
Vehicle: Yak-3 USSR and French premium Yak-3
Game Mode: Air RB / Air Realistic
BR change: 4.3 to 4.7
Reasoning:
Almost every experienced prop Air RB player flying at the BR 4.3 is fully aware of the insane flight performance of this late war (Service in Q3 1944) USSR prop fighter.
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Usually superior energy retention, very fast at low to medium alt and armed with a severely buffed main armament of a single 20 mm cannon and 2 hard hitting HMGs the aircraft has a severe advantage vs most opponents at the same BR.
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Historically seen the BR of currently 4.3 was somehow justified as the 20 mm ShVak were the weakest 20 mm cannon within the game. So the Yak- 3 player needed much more guntime/shells per kill and most enemies could survive one or 2 hits in a head-on whilst their own cannons had a superior damage output.
The ballistic update and the RS iterations 2.0 & 3.0 changed this completely. The 20 mm ShVak became out of nowhere a one-tap killer and the chances to kill enemy fighters with one or 2 hits increased significantly.
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There a just a handful of aircraft able to deal with them at the same BR - but based on the 4 parameters top speed, armament, climb and turn radius they have often 2 or 3 advantages vs their opponents.
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So even if your plane (like the Finnish PM-1) beats them in a turnfight you are ill advised to take a head-on as your MG 151/20 has way worse ballistics - and even if your cannon ballistics are on par (like Hispano or Type 99) the Yak-3 can escape thx to superior speed and thx to the pure flight performance reset unwinnable fights.
I mean all you have to do is to go to Statshark and compare the ratios for Kill per Spawn and Kills per death to see that they outperform almost all 4.3 fighters by a substantial margin.
Edit: I refer also to this post in which i addressed this topic for all fighters armed with ShVaks.
Planned Battle Rating changes for August 2025 (updated 16:00, 15.08) - #967 by Real_K_Soze
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Like lol u have the mig 21 bison to compare and whats the diffrance from the bison to lazur?
Avionics and kit thats it
In general the meta favor kit and not fm
my man wants CAS versions of Mirage 2k to be at 12.0 or 12.3 because “only 2 Magic 2s”
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12.3 maybe but 12.0 HELL NAW
12.0
Not the c5
The m2kd-r1 the strike version with only 2 magics
Its allready 12.3
Still a m2k with magic2s therefor cannot go below 12.3
good point, move the harriers and the Ayit to 10.0
Yes it can
Its like mf1c but insted radar missiles u have good fm which doesnt give u much anyway
This tells me everything you have to know
What?
The radar missiles on the f1c is just dead weight. the m2k not having those radar missiles is not a tradeoff its just an upgrade. So you just get a better f1c at the same br
True, all the yak3s are insane at that BR. I can play as braindead as I can still maintaining 4:1 K/D ratio while in other planes I am really cautious about my gameplay.
Even the Yak-9U at 4.7 and yak9p at 5.0 are still beasts with pretty same results for me.
Yak3s could go up to 4.7, Yak-9U to 5.0 and still be just fine.
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yak3u is so funky it just outclimbs almost everything. It outturns everything that outclimbs it and it outruns everything that outturns it
I jsut got it and it feels like cheating
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R-73 is also easy to oneflare,they both use same IRCCM ig.