No, I’m asking for it to be bearable at 13.3. 4x 120 and 2x 9L on a 13.3 with 12.7 radar and electronics? Is that really OP?
Plus I don’t know your whole deal with compression, I’d say aside from a few specific cases top tier isn’t that compressed. It is mainly 8.0 to 10.0 that really suffers
and I’m arguing it already is, and in fact would already be on the better end of 13.3
this doesnt mean anything, you can’t assign a BR to a piece of equipment, what u can do is look at how good something is at its BR and the F-16’s avionics at 13.3 are not bad in the slightest and lean towards good.
You’ve got Ground Battles, or Arcade if you like. Sorry, but anything calling itself an Air Realistic Battle that includes a situation where an A-10 shoots down a 1953 aircraft with AIM-9L missiles is completely detached from any conceivable reality.
If that’s the kind of game you want to play, fine—but then please, no one here should ever argue again that aircraft in the game don’t match their documented performance. The moment all-aspect missiles are shooting down MiG-19s, any debate about matching aircraft stats to documentation becomes meaningless - at that point, you’re basically playing a phantasy arcade game, where the only things missing are dragons and magic orbs.
Dozens of posts about APFSDS m900 for AGS and so far 0 reactions from developers
I would like to ask the developers how, in their opinion, we should play with 392 mm armor penetration at level 11.7, if this penetration was not even enough at 11.3.
Just think about what you talking… The Pak PUMA got pushed up to 4.7 cause of the gun… it have no armor… no stabilizer
The M-51 both variant have more than capable gun to deal with anything that encounters it actually should be in 7.0 with the 400 mm pen on all angle…
Jagdtiger, RB, 6.7 → 6.3
Reason: it has allready poor mobility and now even less after the bug reports which btw just prove the values for the Tiger, not the Jagdtiger…
Edit: might consider the 12,8/8,8 cm Pzgt. TS which is allready in game, just on the Maus, in the end its the same gun
Reasoning:
The Merkava Mk.2D is essentially a CM11(9.3 tank) with a worse reload and has no business in 10.3
The merkava has slightly better armor but mobility and reload is very bad.
If you really want to push the Merkava up in br then you should at least give it a 5 second reload.
In 10.0 we have tanks like the CCVL with infinitely better mobility and a 5 second autoloader…
If you genuinely cant leave it in 10.0 then at least put it up in rank where it belongs. Rank VII. Thats where it should be… Even at 10.0 it should be there…
Vehicle : ELC Bis
Change (from → to) : Tank Destroyer → Light tank
Reason : The ELC Bis has all the traits of a light tank (plus it was developped to be dropped from planes). Small height, good mobility, very light armor, etc… it would allow it to scout targets and make it a more wanted and enjoyable vehicle.
F-16A Bl10 don’t have 120s and aren’t getting 120s, the MLU & ADF are getting them–& they are being pushed up to 13.3.
Bl10 with only 9Ls should be lowered.
As a matter of fact its absolutely silly to have a ~600kph attacker to sit at a bracket just for 4 missiles that still don’t guarantee a kill every match. Matches are happen fast pace and end in min’s, your fate is decided before you even make it to the BF.
You can’t do ANYTHING with the A-10s. It was terrible with the A-10A & its worse for the A-10C as its sits at a higher bracket with higher/stronger competition.
So you should be aware how bad the Phantoms are fighting regularly against Gripens, Hornets, Vipers, Eagles.
I’ve adjusted the Kurnass in my earlier post to be 12.0
Which it should, quality of missiles is not good enough and quantity of them is not enough and quality of airframe is not good enough to be at current BR, 12.7 is the min.
Su-22M3 only have 12 CM, Su-17/22s all of them have piss-poor air frames & can’t compete in brackets with IRCCM missiles, faster enemy jets, better performance enemy jets and missiles.
R-60Ms are not good enough to warrant their current bracket. There more than enough jets at my suggested bracket that are equal in performance & missiles & they have CM.
If Striker & Bombers don’t get an airspawn, (500m above at the start of the AF). Then yea, Su-17/22, Tornadoes, F-111, Su-24 need to be lowered in ARB. Period, I suggest you go and play several battles to find out yourself what the experience is.
3 people made a reply who have the same idiotic opinion as you and you think the entire forum is with you? LoL naff off. IDC about the stupid opinions of 3 people. I could say the same, “look in the mirror bud you also don’t know what you’re talking about.”
LoL what? nope, I’ve played plenty of battles and accumulated enough experience, 9Ms aren’t guarantee kill weapons.
Small quantity of missiles vs utter terrible jet performance, sorry but jet performance is far outweighs 2x 9M in a Tornadoes case. It a Striker, its not a fighter, the missiles are for defense not offense. Good luck catching someone before they see you coming.
Not?
And?
Assuming your lucky and the enemy isn’t aware, and you get close enough where flares don’t matter.
There’s no such things as free kills, get that idea out of your head. You always have to work for your kill.
So its undertiered, should be at 11.0
So, I guess you need to be explained like some 5 year old. What happens if little Timmy who has the capability of a college level mind is in the same 1st or 2nd grande class as you?
No such thing as free kills. F-4E can standoff fire and has CM to stay safe and superior performance. A good Pilot will nvr let you get close. You’re dependent on luck nothing more, Magic 2 need to be fired at 1.5km to be a guarantee kills.
You like to focus and throw the rest of comment out the window I see, I said they could “remain at 12.7 or”
Your opinion again, I doubt its more educated ;p
other then belittling you haven’t really explained much of anything.
“free kills” theres no such thing as a free kill, “guarantee kill” theres no such as a guarantees in battle (unless your fighting a biplane with a modern jet, that level of dichotomy is what you call guarantee).
This no armor BEST armor works in hight BR but in low you get wrecked by .50 cals and anything really that touches you…
The HEAT is what makes so broken… 400mm nothing has remotely close to that armor value at 6.0 It should fight Cold war vehicles like T-54 and similar crap!
They ignore anything that doesnt support their opinion in 99% of cases anyways. I just wanted to comment because I was bored. I dont expect anything to come from it as usual.