Planned Battle Rating changes for August 2025 (updated 16:00, 15.08)

Checks ground forces changes
>ground forces BR still capped at 12.0

Where decompression?

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Or even just BOL. Anything to give them a reason to be higher if they cannot move down

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Mode: Ground Realistic Battles
Vehicle: Jpz 4-5
Change: Add the M431 as the default shell.

Reasoning:
Currently, the two default shells available for the Jpz 4-5 in the game — the DM502 and M71 — have penetration values of only 102mm and 16.2mm, respectively, making them completely ineffective against enemy vehicles of the same tier. As a result, players are unable to effectively engage in combat or research modifications before unlocking the M431 shell.

Then write a letter of complaint 85 years into the past and tell them to make a better engine

said the man screaming about better players without showing as much as hint of data to support that.

then just show to all of us how good are you by playing it at 11.7. For someone so skilled it should be easy to flex on us noobs.

fuji

VBC-PT2
BR: 9.3 → 9.3 (No Change)

The VBC-PT2, despite a fast-firing cannon and mobile platform, is currently sitting fine as in 9.3 and its combat capability is not fitting for 9.7.

First, compared to IFV counterparts such as BMD-4M, it lacks ANY form of frontal engagement AT tools, as in ATGM. When faced with fast flanking MBTs with some armour, such as XM-1s, OF-40 or KPZ-70s, the VBC-PT2 lacks any capability to engagement head on while contesting for flanking posistion. While BMD-4Ms or Belgeitpanzer have missiles for these situations. The VBC-PT2 is already requiring a higher skill floor and knowledge of the game in order to be effective as it has no backup alternative but flanking shots (which is also not guaranteed against Russian MBTs due to the limited penetration of 92mm point blank).

At the same time, compared to the VBCI-2 (MCT30) of 9.7.
It lacks the unmanned turret (reduced survivability)
lacks frontal fuel tank for spall absorption (less survivable)
Lacks sufficient penetration against up-tier Russian MBT side armour (92mm of VBC compare to 114mm of VBCI)
Lacks IRST tracking (lacks anti-helicopter and pseudo AA capability)
Worse gun handling (smaller zoom, worse thermals, slower horizontal and vertical speed).
Worse mobility (less P/W, 21.2 vs 22.2 of VBCI-2)

Currently, the VBC-PT2 only reflects the combat capability of its 9.3 France cousin of VBCI, while lacking in detailed auxiliary equipment such as IRST and Electro-optical Active Protection System the France have.

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and why they limited its RPM to 2500? gearbox issues?

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I find it a strange choice to nerf it based on it. Begleit is higher BR in arcade than RB presumably because it has HE-VT and you get a lead indicator within 2.5km in arcade, so its much easier to swat planes out of the sky.

2s38 has IR tracking though anyways so it wouldn’t have problems either way. Could just put it at 10.7 in AB and RB and people might finally be happy lol.

They should add the countermeasures back to the chineese MLU, now that it will be 13.3

The Gearbox on the Tiger II worked well, the issue was the engine in general, it had to be limited on both the Panther and Tiger to extend the engine life.

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Gaijin Quick question why is the chinese squadron vehicle Object 122MT “MC” 8.7 And not 9.0 or even 9.3? The T-55 with drozd is at 9.0 when the orginal is at 8.3? The chinese veriant has Over 1000hp+ Almost double from the original and the one Drozd one, ontop of that it has a More sloped armor 67 degrees instead of 59 making ti more armored and while that wasn’t enough it has 4 ATGMS And it has a Better APFDS round with 350mm or pen instead of 335mm of the orginal One again ussr get’s the short end of the stick by gaijins balancing team

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Welcome to Gaijin Entertainment co.

Give Strike & Bomber aircraft an airspawn by default as they had it years ago, rank 6 and above. These class of aircraft suffer from AF spawn and approach into the main field of combat, can’t bomb bases cuz of teammates in faster fighters bombing bases, and enemies targeting helpless Strikers & Bombers.

Suggestions:
ARB - Reduce BR for F-4E Kurnass 2000 to 12.0
ARB - Reduce F-16A Blk 10 (the ones with non-irccm missiles) to 12.0
ARB - Reduce F-14A IRIAF & F-14B to 12.7
ARB - Reduce A-10C to 11.0
ARB - Reduce Q-5A to 9.3
ARB - Reduce Q-5L to 9.7
ARB - Reduce A-5C to 10.3
ARB - Reduce J-8F to 12.7
ARB - Reduce Su-17M3, M4s, 22s to 10.7
ARB - Reduce F-111F & F-111C to 11.0
ARB - Reduce Su-24M to 11.0
ARB - Reduce Buccaneer S2B to 9.7
ARB - Reduce Tornado GR.1, IDS [Ger, Italy], IDS 1995, IDS MLU to 11.0
ARB - Reduce Tornado GR.4 to 11.3
ARB - Reduce Jaguar IS to 10.3
ARB - Reduce Sea Harrier FA.2 to 12.7
ARB - Increase J-7D to 11.0
GRB - Reduce Chi-Nu-II to 3.7
GRB - Reduce SUB-I-II to 4.7
GRB - Reduce Skink [US, UK] to 4.7
GRB - Reduce Kugelblitz to 6.0

– Rank increase for M24 Chaffee & AMX-13-M24 [USA, China, France ] to rank 3
– Give MiG-29 (9.12A, G) R-73’s and takeaway their R-27’s as these are ahistorical, increase BR appropriately.
– Remove the AIM-9J from the Germ F-104G & F-4F [E, L] as Germany nvr used the 9Js irl–they skipped the 9Js. They went 9B->9B FGW.2->9L/I. Therefore reduce their BRs for ARB–F-104G to 9.3, F-4F [E] to 10.0, & [L] to 10.3
– Give F-100F AIM-9P and increase BR to 10.0
– Leave XM-800T to its current BR.
– Leave the Sabra to its current BR.
– AGS give it M900 shell and increase.
– Leave the Merkava Mk.2D to its current BR.

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if Tiger II (H) gets 38kph as max speed, i will agree with it, 34kph is too low, its below average

The ‘T’ in SuperTEMP literally means ‘Tornado,’ so adding them would be an ahistoric change.

I’m personally for it, but I could see how others would not be.

AIM-9L is a must have, though.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/qDKeGlF2bDex

Whilst they were originally for that. A source was found for them on the Phantoms

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Very cool! Then they definitely should be added.

Absolutely no reason to have the FG.1 & FGR.2 be functionally identical in game.

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how about no

Instead of dropping both, these planes should be differentiated.

FG.1 should stay as it is and drop to 11.7. This would represent an early version of this aircraft.

FGR.2 should stay at 12.0 and get AIM-9L + Skyflash SuperTEMP.

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11.7 with IRCM? yeah no that should not happen