if Type 81 got it’s SAM-1C ARH it would be fair at 11.7, but 11.3 (current BR) is more than enough. 11.0 if they are nice
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Air realistic battles
Netz (Israel)(Tech tree) —> 12.7 —> 12.3
The Netz is a block 10 with python 3s instead of AIM-9Ls. the Premium one is fine at 12.7 due to it having the Pythons and the extra 120 CMs.
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Vehicle : AMX A-1A
Gamemode : Air Realistic Battles
BR Change : 11.0 → 10.7
Reason : The aircraft is uncompetitive against other aircraft at its BR, you’re lacking flight performance to reach ground targets before other aircraft besides, you lack the speed to run, bomb bases, fight back…
The MAA-1 is basically useless at this BR being a worse/sidegrade of 9L, it’s not worth the increase of .3 from the TT counterpart.
Also, this would make the AMX better at grinding, and more prone to selling.
Right now the AMX is just a sad piece of ewaste added to the game
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Can we expect to see the Tigre HAC removed since we know it was in fact a UHT repainted for ‘trials’ while the real HAC wouldve had certain different sub systems.
Proof:
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kurnass 2000 is already at 11.3 in GRB
Its also worse as an SPAA than the “removed” Coelian at 6.3, Another reason to bump it down.
Air Realistic battles
Sea Harrier FA-2
13.0–> 12.7
Its a really sad plane. Worse than the AV-8B Plus in every way apart from countermeasure count due to BOL pods. It is able to carry AIM-120s, but it is simply not on par with the harriers or other fox3 slingers at 13.0- Same airframe as the earlier harriers so worse flight performance, unable to carry as many missiles as other harriers (At most 4 AIM-120s+2 BOL pods while not carrying guns, or 2 AIM-120s and 2 AIM-9L/M with BOL pods, or 4 IR missiles without BOL pods), guns have much less ammunition
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I’d move the Super Hind to 10.0 or even 9.7 GRB its lack of anti air missiles and atgms that are rather slow for helicopter work means its 10.0 contemporaries are just plain better.
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BMP-3 9.0 → 9.3 currently one of the strongest vehicles on the BR. Has everything you need from a good IFV and the combination makes it too strong for the BR
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Air Realistic Battles
Tornado GR.1/ Tornado IDS (1995)/ Tornado IDS MLU RET8/Tornado IDS ASSTA1
11.7–> 11.3
Not entirely sure as to the flight performance differences between the GR.1 and say the IDS WTD61, but theres no reason for these tornados to be 11.7 (facing the premium hornet spam) with 2 AIM-9Ls. These tornados are higher than the premium IDS WTD61 due to being able to carry guided bombs, which are of no use in a typical air-RB match.
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I wouldn’t say the MAA-1 are worse than 9Ls. but certainly equal. Which places it nicely at the same BR as the TT AMX
BMD 4/M 9.3 → 9.7 currently one of the strongest vehicles on the BR. Has everything you need from a good IFV and the combination makes it too strong for the BR
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Air Realistic battles
F/A 18A
12.3–> 12.7
Really strong platform with good flight performance, alongside up to 8 competitive missiles for the BR. The F-18A is an overly strong plane at its current BR, and there’s no reason to use the F-16A or ADF over it in an air RB match.
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psst, missed the ASSTA1 on the german TT
:P
Air Realistic battles
F-4J (UK)
12.0–>11.3
Worse than the F-4J in every manner apart from the gunpod (GAU-4 instead of the US navy pod)
No HMS, No AIM-7F (Skyflash missiles instead) and can only carry at most 4 sparrows instead of 6.
At 11.3 it would be similar to the F-4E but has a PD radar while sacrificing flight performance and lack of internal gun.
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Mode: Ground Realistic Battles
Vehicle: Lvrbv 701
9.7 > 9.3
Reasoning: The Lvrbv 701 is severely outclassed by most other SPAAs at its BR, with its only advantage being range. However, it struggles to make use of said range, as it lacks any means of easily detecting aircraft. It is best used against helicopters, but at 9.7, it starts facing helicopters that can hover close to its maximum range. This wouldn’t be an issue if it carried a search radar or IR search, but having to visually identify targets makes it significantly harder to use. Additionally, it is entirely outranged by helicopters in any sort of uptier, which, at 9.7, is not uncommon.
When faced with planes, it once again suffers due to its inability to quickly spot them. The Lvrbv 701’s poor turret traverse and limited elevation angles make it ineffective against most aircraft it will face, as they either climb too high or stay too low and close to be targeted efficiently.
When compared to SPAAs at its BR it is mediocre at best, when compared to anything higher BR it is entirely obsolete. With several other SAMs already found at lower BRs, I do not believe lowering the Lvrbv 701’s BR will suddenly make it broken, simply slightly more useable. You will still have to rely on eyeballs mk1 to spot and engage targets.
Additionally, at 9.3 it would fit much nicer into a lineup, as currently the Strf 9040B is the only other 9.7 ground vehicle Sweden has access to, ignoring premiums.
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lol thanks
Amx m4 keep it at 6.7
Amx-13 keep it at 6.7
Amx-40 keep it at 9.7
You want to move these then decompress ground to 14.0
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The Russian bias award of the Battle Rating changes for April 2025 goes to the…(🥁) Ka-52 and MI-28NM staying at 12.0 while the EC-665 Tiger UHT goes to 12.3. They’re better, which is why they have higher kills per spawn and death according to statshark.
Finally, 13.0 for aircraft in GRB. Two BR changes too late but better late than never.
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