While also having more CMs
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it make sense because it can now munch through mbt and ofc ifv and light tank
still a bit of a joke the Kurnass 2K is at that br lol
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Mode: Air Realistic Battles
Aircraft: F-4F (Germany)
Change: 11.0 → 10.7
Reasoning: Relative Effectiveness of AIM-9J at 11.0: While the AIM-9J is a significant improvement over earlier Sidewinder models, it is still outmatched by the missiles frequently encountered at BR 11.0. It is less effective against modern countermeasures (chaff, flares) and possesses a shorter range than missiles like the AIM-9L, R-60M, Magic 2
Lack of Beyond-Visual-Range (BVR) Capability: This argument remains unchanged. The F-4F lacks any capability to engage targets beyond visual range. This puts it at a distinct disadvantage against aircraft equipped with BVR missiles, forcing it to close to within visual range where its flight performance may be lacking.
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its top tier mbt mobility with 9.3 firepower at 9.7. if it was classified as a light tank it would be 10.0 already and pushing 10.3.
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Hmmm still no justice for german F-104 and german F-4F They are both on 11.0, and it’s so fun to play against planes with all-angle rockets and radar rockets while having just AIM-9J. This is such a disaster.
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it would not fall off really even at 12.0. why not put it up there?
its one of those vehicles that can be uptiered infinitely and it wont suffer.
You wanna look at Tornado GR.4, HRR GR.7 and JH-7A as well, what are these CAS doing in 12.3, ARB
the GR.7 could be 12.0, but 11.7 because its a better plane than the A-10C. GR.4 could be 11.7
JH-7A should be 12.0 as well, you can even make a case for it being 11.7 considering its better than the already overtiered tornado
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Are you nuts? It has a better gun, better acceleration, better armor, it’s literally straight up better than the T-55A. Even when compared to the T-55AM-1, it has a better gun and still slightly better acceleration while also retaining the amazing 14.5 gun for anti-air duties. It even has a good APFSDS round (the stock one) with proper post-pen and angled pen unlike the T-55 APFSDS that is literally is as good as an APDS. It will not struggle at all at 9.0, it has great characteristics all-around the border.
Mode: Air realistic
Vehicle: Phantom FG.1/F4j(UK)
Change: BR from 12.0 > 11.7
Reason: underwhelming compared to Phantoms such as F4S/J(US) and the same BR as Tornado F.3 which is a superior aircraft rendering them pointless.
Mode: Air realistic
Vehicle: Phantom FGR2
Change: Addition of AIM9L and keep at the current BR 12.0
Reason: to be competitive at 12.0, to differentiate British tree phantoms rather than having functionally three of the same aircraft at one BR.
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I’ll drop a comment here then ig
Air Realistic Battles
Harrier GR.7
12.3–> 12.0/11.7
The Harrier GR.7 has a pretty strong kit of 4 AIM-9M missiles for the battle rating it currently sits at, but completely lacks a radar, the guns have a very low trigger time and lack tracers, and it has the flight performance and speed of a harrier. The lack of HMD but overall better flight performance compared to the A-10C makes me think that the harrier could be justified at possibly 11.7.
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I dont want to be that guy but
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Air Realistic Battles
Tornado GR.4 (Britain)
12.3–>12.0/11.7
The Tornado GR.4 is simply a CAS plane and has a very limited effect on an air RB battle. It’s flight performance is inferior to planes such as the F-4J/S. The plane gets 2 AIM-9M air to air missiles but lacks any form of radar/BVR missiles and has access to a HMS. This means that I think the GR.4 could be moved down from its current BR of 12.3
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same with f104s/ASA and f104s Italian
f104s/ASA historically had double the missiles it has in game, also it has no directional rwr so it’s too much overtiered
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PL-5EII has IRCCM, you daft or something?
OK fair point? You mean you have severe skill issue to not be able to use fuckin gripen?
Fuck is this even trying to say.
That can’t perform sustained turn without the snappiness of Delta wing, WITH 4 DIRECTIONAL RWR AND NO HMD.
Someone gotta revoke your speaking privilege.
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I think F-104s and F-104s TAF needs to be down tier with their aim9Ps currently against mig 23ml or AV8B+ NGL etc all uses Aim9 Ls and M60Ms … so it needs to be downgrade as Mig23MF lvl 11.0 br
LEARN THE GAME
STOP trying to head-on A-10 and maybe you can live with 9J.