Planned Battle Rating changes for April 2025

Usually, I enjoy reading forum posts from extremely biased people, just because I want to see how bias can affect your thinking and what it can convince you of.
Anyway, your attitude toward other players is way too full of yourself, especially considering that you’re just a new player — and a very average one at best.

Complaining about the KV-1S and its BR increase is pure madness, and even your stats reflect that, since it’s the only tank you play even half-decently. 4.7 is probabli not enougth 5.0 is more fair

The BI -1 is absolutely OP, and no person in the universe would ever say otherwise unless they’re lying — not even a biased one. So is shoud go up

Plz stop lying and gaslith other user the being bless by standard thinking complain aboit real probblem

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I think you mean BI-1, not B1. B1 is a pretty bad tank

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I think the tornado would be a very viable option, maybe a Su-25 for the soviets? idk

especially with the crunch of the Conq’s “Shell Shattered”

The only issue with the increase is that the KV-1E didn’t move up too. I love the KV-1S, it feels like an MBT at low tier since it combines good armor, mobility, and firepower.

Anyway, it shouldn’t move up unless the KV-1E does too. I’m surprised Gaijin hasn’t moved it considering how long we’ve been requesting it get moved up.

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Leo 1 need to drop to 7.7 (it has by far the worst stats)
Wiesel 1a4 and Luchs are amongs the worst vehicles in warthunder, especially the Luchs (same BR as a BTR lol). Both need to drop to. The Wiesel to 7.0 the Luchs to 6.0.

IS4M, IS6, T32, and the Maus to 7.3

The obj140 and the Turm III to 8.7

and please the OP T92 can go to 7.3, where also the RU251 is.

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I mean, if the stats are showing those tanks having a lower win rate than other tanks…then statistically they aren’t better. Even when you don’t look at premiums like the KVT and Clickbait or the AIM squardon vehicle. The M1A2 isn’t performing better than say the Ariete or 2A7/6/5s.

We don’t really have data available to us on a granular level like the M829A2 does better than whatever the Ariete uses. We can just see win rates. And its been a well-known fact that top tier US has been one of the lowest performing (if not the worst) nation. So moving those tanks up doesn’t make sense. Im not saying they should go down in BR but they certainly don’t need to go up unless the 12.0 ceiling were to be raised to 13.0. Then they would just move their equivalent up. So…12.0-12.7.

As for the T55-AM1 and AMD1 both of them sit comfortably at 8.7 the composite armor on the AM1 does not do much for stopping enemy rounds whether it be HEATFS, APDS, or even early APFSDS. Even in a down tier they can still get penetrated by everything it sees because from my experience everything at 7.7 either has HEATFS or APDS. Both of these tanks will get destroyed in an uptier to 10.0 and make buying the premium not even worth it.

Yeah, if they even fix APHE over performing and APDS underperforming, it would fix soooooo many issues

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It does make sense when M1A2 SEP is comparable to Leopard 2A5.

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SEP is 2A6 cuz gen 2 thermal tbh

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What do you even mean by that ?

SEP has gen 2 thermal
2A6 has gen 2 thermal
SEP thermal > 2A5 thermal
SEP thermal = 2A6 thermal
Therefore SEP = 2A6

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I made a mistake, I was talking about M1A2 that sits at 11.7 but should be at 12.0 since it’s pretty much comparable to 2A5.

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Vehicle: Kfir C.7
Gamemode: Air RB
Change: 12.0 > 11.7
Reason: Kfir C.7 can only have 4 IR missiles without IRCCM. This is far inferior to the attack power of aircraft with the same BR. It should also be noted that the Kfir C.7 can only have 36 CMs, which is not enough to compensate for its lack of offensive capability. Thus, the Kfir C.7 has few advantages as a BR 12.0 aircraft, and I propose to lower its BR.

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Granted, I’ve never played the J21, but I’m fairly sure it does have a worse top speed due to the airframe. To be honest, just from having fought it before, it could probably stand to be lower than 6.7.

Have they changed/ added anything yet?

Vehicle: Stormer HVM
Gamemode: Ground RB
Change: 10.3 > 10.0
Reason: The missiles of the Stormer HVM are difficult to hit the jets because they must be hit directly by hand. Given that a similar vehicle, the French Roland, has a BR of 9.7, and given that the elevation angle of the Stormer HVM is superior to that of the French Roland, I think a BR of 10.0 for the Stormer HVM is appropriate.

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Or they could just fix the Stormer HVM. It’s missing a lot from IFF+NCTR to the starstreaks themselves underperforming. Failing that it could also get LMMs

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I can’t tell if you’re trolling or not

Leo 1 need to drop to 7.7 (it has by far the worst stats)

  • there’s a reason why it got uptiered from 7.3 to 8.0. it was crapping all over 6.3 tanks. even bringing it to 7.7 will bring the same issue, as no one runs 6.3 lineups, all proper lineups are at 6.7. Please, we don’t want that to happen again, it’ll create another mig15/f86 situation.

Wiesel 1a4 and Luchs are amongs the worst vehicles in warthunder

  • they’re basically XM800s without stabilizers. Please, we don’t want those rats running around at lower BRs. Wiesel literally got a laser range finder and thermals too. don’t be ridiculous.

The obj140 and the Turm III to 8.7

  • With the tanks running around at 8.7 (AM1 / AMD / RISEP) that’s just not a good idea. turm3 got an autoloader, yes, and it’s mobile. But that’s as much as it gets. Putting it on level with apfsds and lrf level. not to mention it’s not survivable at all. and for the obj140, are you serious? what business does it have at 8.7? does it have a good apfsds? does it have maybe a rangefinder? good armor maybe? it’s got what the american m60a1 got, and that’s where it should stay.

and please the OP T92 can go to 7.3, where also the RU251 is.

  • you’re funny. it’s basically a low profile german bulldog and it’s already uptiered. leave it where it is, the ru251 got a proper round and postpen to defend itself.