I mean ofc its important but the brenus makes ip for it in every other aspect.
Like if it had an 8.7 round and no thermals it would likely be extremely difficult to use.
However seeing as it has a myriad of other boons it makes up for the lack of a stab.
In most other cases id say it needed a stab but this and the 30b2 are alright.
They can do alright in cqc as well, you just have to be patient and less aggressive
Not if all the other 9.7s move up.
T64BV is my favourite T series tank and genuinely believe it should goto 10.0
Yeah it definitely has some pros going for it, but lacking the stabilizer in lobbies filled with tanks that have it doesn’t really feel right from my experience. But of course this is personal preference and people have different playstyles.
@jspene
I’ve played tanks that don’t have it in lobbies filled with fully stabilized enemies and I simply didn’t like it. Extra features that BRENUS has surely do help but I don’t think I’d enjoy it that much simply because of that reason.
The difference is those extras on the brenus actually make a massivr difference, you just cant be hyper aggressive in most situations.
Genuinely for almost anyother tank id prefer a stab but the brenus does compensate fornit
“because i said so” ahh response
Air RB
Low BR all aspects slingers: where is the airspawn allowing them to get higher in BR and decompress the 9.0 - 9.7 BR area?
Air RB
Mirage 2000D RMV
Why is it higher than the 2000D with only the addition of intelligent bombs? Its fighting capabilities are nowhere enough to justify a BR increase
I really dont see reason to move AMX M4 and AMX-13 on 7.0
AMX M4 armor is average at level 6.7
For the firepower of the AMX M4 gun is basically at the level of the long 88 which is the most used gun in german techtree on 6.3-6.7
In mobility is AMX M4 also average for medium tank on 6.7
AMX-13 is extremely average on level 6.7 in armor, firepower and mobility
Also gets HMD which, with the Magic II is quite potent, but yeah, probably could be 12.3 quite comfortably
Clickbait, M1A1, and the HC have kower win rates than the Arietes and Leopards. Why would they get moved up if they perform worse.
“At the level of the long 88”
“In mobility it’s average for a medium at 6.7”
Thats an issue between the keyboard and the chair.
The tanks statistically are on par with or better than the majority.
For example are you telling me the M1A2 is worse than an ariete?
This comment is very obtuse, and makes me laugh. I don’t know what I’m talking about and own the vehicle?
How much more one sided could you be??
It’s not like I told you the problems it faces, nor did I say they weren’t semi managable
Usually, I enjoy reading forum posts from extremely biased people, just because I want to see how bias can affect your thinking and what it can convince you of.
Anyway, your attitude toward other players is way too full of yourself, especially considering that you’re just a new player — and a very average one at best.
Complaining about the KV-1S and its BR increase is pure madness, and even your stats reflect that, since it’s the only tank you play even half-decently. 4.7 is probabli not enougth 5.0 is more fair
The BI -1 is absolutely OP, and no person in the universe would ever say otherwise unless they’re lying — not even a biased one. So is shoud go up
Plz stop lying and gaslith other user the being bless by standard thinking complain aboit real probblem
I think you mean BI-1, not B1. B1 is a pretty bad tank
I think the tornado would be a very viable option, maybe a Su-25 for the soviets? idk
especially with the crunch of the Conq’s “Shell Shattered”
The only issue with the increase is that the KV-1E didn’t move up too. I love the KV-1S, it feels like an MBT at low tier since it combines good armor, mobility, and firepower.
Anyway, it shouldn’t move up unless the KV-1E does too. I’m surprised Gaijin hasn’t moved it considering how long we’ve been requesting it get moved up.
Leo 1 need to drop to 7.7 (it has by far the worst stats)
Wiesel 1a4 and Luchs are amongs the worst vehicles in warthunder, especially the Luchs (same BR as a BTR lol). Both need to drop to. The Wiesel to 7.0 the Luchs to 6.0.
IS4M, IS6, T32, and the Maus to 7.3
The obj140 and the Turm III to 8.7
and please the OP T92 can go to 7.3, where also the RU251 is.
I mean, if the stats are showing those tanks having a lower win rate than other tanks…then statistically they aren’t better. Even when you don’t look at premiums like the KVT and Clickbait or the AIM squardon vehicle. The M1A2 isn’t performing better than say the Ariete or 2A7/6/5s.
We don’t really have data available to us on a granular level like the M829A2 does better than whatever the Ariete uses. We can just see win rates. And its been a well-known fact that top tier US has been one of the lowest performing (if not the worst) nation. So moving those tanks up doesn’t make sense. Im not saying they should go down in BR but they certainly don’t need to go up unless the 12.0 ceiling were to be raised to 13.0. Then they would just move their equivalent up. So…12.0-12.7.