Good mobility+armor=amazing
It has above avrage mobility
And while dm13 is better its still has good shell that can pen all tanks with no issue with great spall
Rly great tank it is one of if not the best tank in 8.7 and it can go up with no issue
Preferrably these changes should be implemented together with removing the airspawn of wyverns. Either as an energy fighter or bomber, these things will make most players have a frustrating day, either getting shot down by it or unable to chase it in most fighters.
Skill issue. Will you suggest removing bomber spawn to every bomber that has front armament?
Most bombers with forward armaments are not particularly agile. Tu-2 is an exception and it may change, everyone else has only a handful of 50cals at most.
How do British, highlight, British bombers deal with them using .303s?
U compare top tier aps?
The fact ur immune to (yes immune) to atgms from the front is huge
Add the great armor good mobility and nice canon that can pen things with no issue and u got a monster in 8.7
Removing bomber spawn from torpedo/dive bomber like ryusei is absurd. Its never gonna happend since they would have to remove airspawn from every fighter bomber. Ryusei is not attacker. People in Helldivers, Avengers, Ryusei or stuff like that get kills because the enemy is bad and dont expect bombers to dive at them. Not because their planes are some wonder weapon. They are still heavy bricks and will lose in dogfight if you play correctly.
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Helldivers are extremely stiff and they are dumb in roll. To attack a stirling Mk. III - a 4.7 bomber mind you, it is still more than adequate. They are only able to engage a few target before the energy runs out, but some of those targets are either completely incapable of retaliation or is poorly suited for it. Again, stirlings: four .303s on a side on or head on, zero defense for coming under.
Whell its more mobile then shot kal and all the magachs u cry about
Not miles they both on par the tts has better fp while being less mobile with big profile
No aps ofc and bad armor against non heat
Ofc it can its better then t62 which is allready pretty good
Intresting u dont cry about is3 terrorising 6.3 or t72 on 8.3
So yes i rather 1 vehicle to “suffer” then all 7.7 suffering from it
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…So what was your original point then? They’re both still easily killed by LFP and anywhere with ERA on any of the T-72s is a strong point. I can’t say I’ve ever been penned through my UFP without the ERA in that spot being destroyed. Meaning the TURMS-T is just a B with thermals.
I don’t get why the AM-1 is going up but the AMD-1 absolutely needs to go up.
Does it make any sense that M1A1 and IPM1 are at the same br?
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The AM-1 is clearly superior to the AMD-1 with its turret armour… the APS does not weigh up the difference.
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The A-5C is already sad enough at 10.7. No reason at all to move it up.
The T-72B glacis is vastly stronger than the AV on top of having a better engine and fwiw a stronger turret due to heavy NERA inserts
you have no idea what you’re talking about, the AV is nothing like a “B with thermals”.
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Nah. The Ho-Ri makes up for it by being massively more mobile and having half the reload rate.
The Jagdtiger should go up. But can’t unless that entire bracket is decompressed. Jagdtiger is a sitting duck to many high pen guns it can meet.
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Make it go up i need something to hit with an ATGM and laugh the ass off lol
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What great armour?
the T55AMD-1 has the same turret as a T55 which is a modified T54 turret…
The hull while has the composite on it can be shot clean through by any of the 105mm APDS at 8.3 never mind 8.7
Its not good, its mediocre, not good or bad.
Completely ignoring the fact its got one of the worst rounds for the BR in its APFSDS, it may have APHE, and a missile but you shouldn’t be using either of those over an APFSDS.
As well as all of this, you’ve never even used the T55AM1 or AMD1.
Its a good 8.7, there are far better tanks at 8.7 than the T55AM1 and AMD1
hell even the object 435 is miles ahead of both of them.
the tank while good for 8.7 should not be forced to face off against 10.0s! have you ever fought a leopard 2K in a T55? it doesn’t work.
Youve got 125mm of angle pen which is about 100 less than most 10.0s have.
Most tanks dont have an APS period, there arent many in game as far as im aware, the BN, the VT4A1, the one on the megachs and the APS on the T55 and T80.
thats it.
The fact is, the T55 APS is still one of the worst in game, regardless of the BR.
If you see the thing pointing at you, and you fire an ATGM at it, that is a skill issue.
Its not though, its about the same and only 2kmph faster, hence the comparison to the chieftain.
You are completely ignoring.
- better reload-
- substantially better round
- similar mobility.
- better layout and survivability.
- better ammo positioning
- better crew positioning.
T-62 aint that good at all, the object 435 takes what is bad on the T62 and improves on it.
E.g roof MG, better profile, marginally better mobility.
and ofc the same gun and reload.
I have complained in the past about the compression of heavy tanks, actually had a full blown debate on a german thread about moving a lot of tanks up E.G tiger 2 shouldnt be the same BR as a sherman.
or the IS3/4 shouldnt see 6.3 / 7.
The T72A actually was something i was about to bring up, the fact of hte matter is, if the T55Am1 and AMD1 go to 9.0
the Merkavas to 9.7,
the shir 2 to 10.0
the T72A should go to 9.7 and the T64B up to 10.0.
Its not one vehicle, its two for a start.
Secondly it creates greater imbalance as these tanks will get clubbed. meaning the tanks in the Br bracket around it will seem better and move up due to the score they recieve not on how they perform overall.
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The fact theyll be at 9.0 with a 125 angle pen dart is stupid af man xD isnt it
Nah, anything over the 105 mm dm 33 can easily pen the t72a UFP, for the t72b only things better than the M900 can actually go trough the UFP, the TURMS-S isnt just a B with thermals, it is just a t72AV with thermals.