Don’t bother arguing with someone who is biased enough to dismiss the reality and their own performance.
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It very much depends on matchmaking, it’s not 4.7 Jumbo levels of overpowered and can be dealt with, but by no means is balanced either. It’s more so extremely annoying to face and unhealthy for the game rather than overpowered. It is a prime example of vehicle that can only be actually balanced with proper BR decompression.
Right now, without decomopression it’s a question of whether you leave it at 4.0 and let it continue being nuisance for everyone else, or throw it into 4.3 and make it share the fate of KV-1 ZiS, IS-4M, IS-6, 76 jumbo and alike.
AH-64A 11.7-11.3 GRB
AGM114 was overvalued, not only AH64, and don’t forget that mh60l at 11.3 with MAWs and AGM114K, meanwhile the AH64A just has AGM114B
quite ironic that the guy defending the KV-1/KV-B is in the -RBIAS- squadron, just sayin
this really seems like a screw france BR change, i dont really understand the AMX-13 going to 7.0, while the AMX-13 (HOT) is still 8.3. the AMX-M4 can hold its own in most 6.7 lobbies due to the mobility. the AMX-13 though, struggles in downtiers, let alone uptiers
also, still questioning why the AMX-13 (HOT) is at 8.3 to begin with, literally every other 8.3 either is more effective, or gets better missiles (bradley)
if the AMX-13 (HOT) got HOT-2 ATGMS it would somewhat justify it being 8.3. or it being re-classed as a Tank Destroyer to receive ammo boxes, considering the MEPHISTO is 8.7, with double the missile count, ammo boxes, and better missiles, its really a no-brainer to never use the 13 HOT in a 8.3 or 8.7 lineup, the AMX-30 ACRA has better missiles and mobility at the same BR.
if anything the AMX-13 should stay 6.7, and the AMX-13 (HOT) should be 7.7-8.0
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Mode: Air Realistic Battles
Vehicle: F4f early (Germany)
BR Change: 10.7 > 10.3
Reasoning:
This variant doesn’t have access to countermeasures at 10.7, it can face 11.7, where many jets have access to good radar missiles. And then at 11.0, which will be the most common BR, it will be facing a ton of jets that have access to all aspects 30g missiles. We all saw how the F4C suffered when it was moved to 10.3 because it had no countermeasures. This plane is no different, no countermearsures at 10.7 is unthinkable and unplayable.
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Air Realistic battles
F-104S.ASA
12.0 > 11.7
This is the same F-104S but with 4 AIM-9L, on this BR its speed and dynamics are already on the plain with opponents, especially in a 12.0-13.0, but it is still starfighter
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AMX-13 to 7.0? Really? I mean I get that the AMX M4 is going up. I always wondered why it’s only at 6.7 but the AMX-13 is just fine where it’s at now. Another victim of stat-based B.R changes for france.
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Not on any side here but I have to bring this up…
Everyone always says “b one doesn’t face german guns” but doesn’t this also mean it fights better armor in return? Always just seemed like a weird argument to me.
i could drop nukes in the AMX-M4 easily, the AMX-13 is essentially the AMX-M4 on ultra nightmare mode
While I agree that this thing has clear weakpoints that can be hit to get good damage, the protection analysis in the hangar is often a far cry from the reality in game. That said, in my personal opinion, this thing can go to hell. Nothin I despise more than facimg this thing covered in a whole jungle. Thats the one time I am glad that CAS is so easy to spawn.
Doesn’t it have mti? Not sure if this actually fixes the problem of the radar missiles but I’d really just have all other 12.0+ radar missile focused planes go up. Wouldn’t want to fight such a fast magic 2 user in a 10.7
“arguably better”
the KV-1B/E gets APHE, better armour, and is nearly half the size and outreloads the ARL-44 (ACL-1)
KV-1 (L-11) cant even pen the KV-1B
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I think the AMX-13 is a good tank that’s fun to play. It requires some skill, but in the right position it can ne very powerful. But 7.0 is just not right imo.
“when angled correctly”
shows screenshot of an unangled turret cheek shot
Nah.
The T-54s need to go back down in br, and the TO-55 stay where it is, while the T-55A is 8.3
the same could be said for just about any other 6.7 light tank, i.e. german bulldog, type 62, if the tank requires skill to get any kills, then its probably over BR’d
(^ i.e. you actually have to try to even get a kill ^)
No matter the angle, the gun is always able to be destroyed.
thats a actual stupid argument,
you can barrel snipe literally every tank in this game
You’re incredibly biased, I’m incredibly honest. Except most people can’t be honest like the forum, which is awesome for balancing tanks.
Would you like to test your theories?