neither k.d nor winrate tell you anything about a vehicle’s perfomance
Because it’s mid at best ?
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Mode: Air Realistic Battles
Aircraft: Phantom Fgr2
Change: 12.0 → 11.7
Reasoning: skyflashes are mediocre (at best) missiles not really able to keep up with other missiles, especially when you get uptiered and have to face su 27s, su 33s and mig 29s (sometimes even f15s and f14s). Plane is quite possibly one of the worst manoeuvring planes at that br and, acceleration wise it’s fast but, at speed everyone (including other F4 phantoms) will catch up to you. With the recent hornets sting update, it’s caused a lot of f18s to spam loads of aim 7Ps. Whilst a lot of people with that plane are just level 5s, if you face a competent person in that plane, you’re screwed
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here some global metrics for you to judge.
are you going to say that you cannot judge anything about a vehicle from its stats?
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If a vehicle sucks ass then players wont do good with it for the most part (I’m of course not meaning the Abrams and vehicles in a similar situation)
if the overall performance of teams with vehicles is good then its a decent vehicle
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brit mains being punished for being better players moment
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i wonder why the tech tree vehicle for the most popular nation in the game has worse stats than an event vehicle for BRITAIN.
Stats arent a good balancing metric.
its overperforming very much even when comparing to other british vehicles.
because its an event vehicle, and its also actually good, id say its not much better than olifant at 9.3(should be 9.7)
so they should just put it at 2.7br just because 1 guy thinks it bad?
Move the T-62 to 8.3
- Lacks a LRF or even a ORF (Common feature at 8.7)
- Poor optics
- Poor gun traverse and elevation
- Average speed and poor reverse
- Poor protection (AMD and AM-1 are better protected at the same BR)
- Long reload (even aced)
Gaijin please save this power-crept old timer
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It’s largely irrelevant. Anyone that was stubborn or good enough to get through the cursed APDS BRs with Britain is probably above average in skill for most of the playerbase.
Meanwhile the soviet TT is stupidly forgiving with APHE and are the most popular nation, meaning they get more players overall. There is no surprise that the soviet tank does a little worse
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good strawman
I see a similar deal with the M1A1 – with its armour values similar to the Type 90, but with a much better round and general versatility at the cost of mobility, reload, and specific versatility.
I think a 4s reload and superior mobility is generally more useful, but the better round and turret rotation speed with the M1A1 is nice against 11.7s and 12.0s.
What I don’t like is how easy these vehicles stomp 10.3s / 10.7s.
If those three all went up to 11.7 and move the HC/AIM/Clickbait to 12.0, and then move the 2A7/ 122Bs and Type 10 / TKX to 12.3, I think it would at least be a little bit more fair.
The fact that the M1 Abrams can’t pen the breech or cheeks of the Type 90, or the TTD being unable to UFP it is quite comical.
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we need to consider who got the vehicle.
it was a long ass grind for it so that filters out casuals and employed people and leaves tryhards, veterans and no-lifers to run the vehicle. Without a lineup so have to use backups or they are having to work harder with the vehicle to stay competitive at the BR.
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Error, to get FV4030/3 you don’t need to grind all over Britain, absolutely any player could get this tank
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i wager most people using it regularly have a lineup
stats are not going to tell you everything, but how else are you going to balance anything?
you cant just ask the player base when half of them think that t55amd at 8.7 is apparently a good idea.
anyway i think the shir 2 is superior to the t64b and deserves to go up to 10.0, but so does the t64b.
also a good idea, yes
I think thats more of an issue with compression and how the type 90 gets so many downtiers rather than the vehicle being too op. Same thing with how 13.0 and 12.7 air is basically unplayable because of 14.0 and 13.7.