it would not fall off really even at 12.0. why not put it up there?
its one of those vehicles that can be uptiered infinitely and it wont suffer.
You wanna look at Tornado GR.4, HRR GR.7 and JH-7A as well, what are these CAS doing in 12.3, ARB
the GR.7 could be 12.0, but 11.7 because its a better plane than the A-10C. GR.4 could be 11.7
JH-7A should be 12.0 as well, you can even make a case for it being 11.7 considering its better than the already overtiered tornado
1 Like
Are you nuts? It has a better gun, better acceleration, better armor, it’s literally straight up better than the T-55A. Even when compared to the T-55AM-1, it has a better gun and still slightly better acceleration while also retaining the amazing 14.5 gun for anti-air duties. It even has a good APFSDS round (the stock one) with proper post-pen and angled pen unlike the T-55 APFSDS that is literally is as good as an APDS. It will not struggle at all at 9.0, it has great characteristics all-around the border.
Mode: Air realistic
Vehicle: Phantom FG.1/F4j(UK)
Change: BR from 12.0 > 11.7
Reason: underwhelming compared to Phantoms such as F4S/J(US) and the same BR as Tornado F.3 which is a superior aircraft rendering them pointless.
Mode: Air realistic
Vehicle: Phantom FGR2
Change: Addition of AIM9L and keep at the current BR 12.0
Reason: to be competitive at 12.0, to differentiate British tree phantoms rather than having functionally three of the same aircraft at one BR.
1 Like
I’ll drop a comment here then ig
Air Realistic Battles
Harrier GR.7
12.3–> 12.0/11.7
The Harrier GR.7 has a pretty strong kit of 4 AIM-9M missiles for the battle rating it currently sits at, but completely lacks a radar, the guns have a very low trigger time and lack tracers, and it has the flight performance and speed of a harrier. The lack of HMD but overall better flight performance compared to the A-10C makes me think that the harrier could be justified at possibly 11.7.
3 Likes
I dont want to be that guy but
2 Likes
Air Realistic Battles
Tornado GR.4 (Britain)
12.3–>12.0/11.7
The Tornado GR.4 is simply a CAS plane and has a very limited effect on an air RB battle. It’s flight performance is inferior to planes such as the F-4J/S. The plane gets 2 AIM-9M air to air missiles but lacks any form of radar/BVR missiles and has access to a HMS. This means that I think the GR.4 could be moved down from its current BR of 12.3
4 Likes
same with f104s/ASA and f104s Italian
f104s/ASA historically had double the missiles it has in game, also it has no directional rwr so it’s too much overtiered
1 Like
PL-5EII has IRCCM, you daft or something?
OK fair point? You mean you have severe skill issue to not be able to use fuckin gripen?
Fuck is this even trying to say.
That can’t perform sustained turn without the snappiness of Delta wing, WITH 4 DIRECTIONAL RWR AND NO HMD.
Someone gotta revoke your speaking privilege.
1 Like
I think F-104s and F-104s TAF needs to be down tier with their aim9Ps currently against mig 23ml or AV8B+ NGL etc all uses Aim9 Ls and M60Ms … so it needs to be downgrade as Mig23MF lvl 11.0 br
LEARN THE GAME
STOP trying to head-on A-10 and maybe you can live with 9J.
It never carried 9Ls did it lmao
I don’t even want to go there first. the fact that the dude said 9J on F-5 is not enough is already a problem to begin with. don’t try to missile with gunfighter, that missile is a third party tool, not your main kill tool.
yea insane amounts of gun ammo on the best dogfighting airframe at the BR.
Really on the fence with this.
Yes, it’s subsonic, but it also has some of the best turn fight performance below the 14.0s. Gr7 Vs even a Gripen would be a close run thing in a low alt turn fight.
It does lack radar, but that is mostly annoying in SB not RB. This could be mitigated by replacing the TIALD with Sniper pod for better VID potential.
It’s guns do lack tracers though imo, they are the best guns in the British TT. 25mm ADENS are laser guns.
It also has a great CM loadout of 4x BOL, though this is heavily mitigated by the fake BOL nerfs. Fixing BOL would give it an amazing defensive loadout. It also has rear-aspect PD MAWS which is fairly good.
So it’s tricky. It has weaknesses that make it stand out at that BR. But it also has strengths. It is also massively underperforming at the moment in all respects (FM, heat sigs, CM loadout, even A2A loadout)
So before dropping it’s BR, I’d rather see it buffed in performance. There are enough outstanding bug reports for It
This probs wont be seen, but trhe sherman 1 in the brit tree needs to go down to 3.3. It is a sherman M4A1 which has an identical tank present in several other trees, but for some reason the sherman 1 is a higher br, with no differences between the other ones in the game
1 Like
The AMX M4 and 13 to 7.0 ?
That’s not only the worst thing that could happen to those vehicles but now there’s no reason to play them anymore.
Why play with a worse tank when the direct upgrade is in the same BR bracket.
Gosh that must be how M26 players feel.
4 Likes