Spike helicopters at 12.3 and KA-52/MI-28NM at 12.0 is the proof that this game is russian propaganda.
So glad it ended
no, that br area is set up quite well already
F-16A from 12.3 in a lower br, it cant be that the F16A is at 12.3 cause it has no radar missiles, while the F/A-18A has radar missiles, can carry the same amount of IR missiles and overall is a better aircraft
no if anything the F/A-18A and C(early) should go up
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I don’t use SUB-I-II on 5.3 I use it on 6.3 and I will use it higher because its good, the only problem is SPAA status that does not allow it to spot for team.
Thermals on light tank at 7.3, no thank you… Unless they change the designation to SPAA (wiesel have SPAA status, probably on purpose)
can we get better reloads for 105mm tanks at 10.3?.. Like we already have good reloads at 10.7 and above but it is fair to add it to 10.3 tanks too… cuz they face practically the same opponents…
Also I want to remind all that 5s reload at 10.3 or below is not unheard of… even in manually loaded tanks… I know this is a compression issue but this is the time to fix it…
Tanks that already have a faster reload aced than 105mm manually loaded tanks at similiar br :-
GER
- PT16/T14 MOD EVENT (10.3 4s autoloader) (same br + better armour)
- Boxer MGS EVENT (10.3 5s autoloader) (same br)
- Kpz 70 TT (9.3 6s autoloader) (weaker shell but better mobility and 20mm and no thermals)
SWE
- Patria 105 CTCV HP EVENT (10.0 5s autoloader)
- CV90105 PRE (10.0 5s autoloader)
USA
- M60 120S TT (10.3 5s aced reload) (worse mobility but good turret armour and top tier round)
- XM8 TT (9.7 5s autoloader) (worse mobility and slightly worse firepower)
- M1 Abrams TT (10.7 5s aced) (much better mobility much better round and questionably better armour at just 0.4 br higher [seriously why gaijin?] )
USSR/RUS
- T80UD TT (10.3 6.5s autoloader) (much better armour, similiar round but much higher caliber no reverse gear and no thermals at same br!)
CHN
- T80UD/BE EVENT (10.3 6.5s autoloader) (same ass t80ud with thermals)
GBR
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CHALLENGER DS (10.7) PRE, CHALLENGER MK2 (10.3) TT, CHALLENGER MK3 (10.7) TT (5s aced reload) (worse mobility but better armour and rounds)
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FV 4030/3 EVENT (9.7 → 10.0 5s aced reload) (low reload with nuke shell at such a low br. honestly gaijin what tf!!!)
JPN
- TYPE 90 TT (11.3 4s autoloader) (Faces tam2c and olifant in full downtier which it gets quite a lot…)
ISRAEL
- SABRA MK 1 TT (9.7 → 10.0 6s aced) (Lower br worse mobility, better armour and top tier round at this br…)
TT > Tech tree vehicle
EVENT > Event vehicle
PRE > Premium vehicle
and Wyvern is still undertiered (wdym it stay at 4.0+ but A2D skyshark not just because it carries way less bombs)
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There’s no reason for the uptier of the AMX-13 and AMX-M4. Literally none.
I would also say that uptiering the T-55AM (+AMD) and the Obj.435 also doesn’t make much sense, considering they’re already quite bad at 8.7…the only saving grace being the APHE round and the Obj.435 is just bad overall. It also breaks the current 8.7 lineup.
Muhh APS on the AMD is just a gimmick, although quite a useful one against ATGMs.
In performance, they are quite slow, have bad reload rate, have armor that does nothing, their engines are extremely loud, the gun handling and overall responsiveness is atrocious and the guns leave alot to be desired. And at 9.0, they will be the same BR as an M60A3 TTS, which is better in every single way.
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amx 13 and amx m4 struggle at their respective br ranges… Only good players do good in them… and the amx 13 is wobbly af… Makes no sense to uptier that… Infact the amx 13 should go down to 6.0 or 6.3 as you fire 75mm solid shot that does no damage and has almost same penetration value as the panther… which btw does have aphe and does considerably more damage
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Sabra does not have good armor
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t55 will suffer at 10.0
They already suffer against t72’s. And what will object 435 do at that br? No smoke grenades, no laser range finger. We need br compression.
They already suffer against t72’s. And what will object 435 do at that br? No smoke grenades, no laser range finger. We need br compression.
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is it the level of tam 2c where 1 stray bmp 2 round can knock out entire vehicle from the front
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Oh no , poor soviet 8.7 line up bullying everyone around the br will no longer be able to face 7.7 and 8.0 constantly , what a shame , how will they recover from this .
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I don`t think the BR changes of the Type 81C and TKX P are fair. It’s a good line up at 11.3 right now, and there’s no reason to change it, Japan already lacks a good line up and now it’s going to be broken again. Type 81C is good but not 11.7 br good, TKX P is good but again not 11.7 good, JM33 it’s not the best round. You guys can’t do changes in the game based on pro players experience, most of the community don’t even play Japan because it goes from 9.7 to 11.3 and now it’s getting worse, and the ones that play (I’m talking about normal players) perform very bad with these tanks because the armor and the mid round it gets. I really hope you guys step back on these changes, there’s no reason to have Type 81C at 11.7 nor the TKX (P), if in the future new vehicles got added to Japan then would be interesting to review this, but till then it’s better to leave as it is now.
Thanks, God bless you all.
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Yes, poor soviet 8.7 line up. If it’s moving to 9.0, other 8-12 br vehicles need to move by 0.3 as well. Now this setup will suffer at 10.0 against leo 2k, t72s and others.
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antiair vs light tank designation just is less spawncost + ammobox, but no scouting(wiesel has scouting anyway). why should a spaa be lower br/have better features just because of its a spaa and not a light tank? this makes no sense.
also gen1 thermals are worthless anyway.
how many stabilized vehicles you face at 6.3? not many i will say.
and? they will suffer much less than 7.7 non stabilized tanks did against ussr & sweden 8.7. its a net positive.
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Type 81(C) → 11.3 (please don’t change it!)
The Type 81 (C) is perfectly fine at 11.3. Moving it’s BR up is nothing but a nerf to the Type 90 line up. You move 5 BRs up, by increasing only 2 vehicles. Personally I don’t care about the TKX (P) because I never bought it, as I find 3 Type 90s more than enough, but with this change you pretty much force every Type 90 player to uptier their lineup. That’s actually quite insulting…
The Type 81 (C) is not that geat to begin with… no radar, not manoeuvrable and missles can’t lock helis beyond 5km, which is a huge pain in the butt, since helicopters can easily outrange it.
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Type 81 (C)
11.3 → 11.3
No radar, gen 1(?) thermals and needs and ir lock to launch which is slightly difficult in adverse weather conditions
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