Fox to 8.0 will ruin the vehicle too don’t worry. there’s two changes that will do a lot
it wouldn’t be that bad if jarms didn’t bugger it up with a vibes based report
German Tonkas have superior engines, otherwise yeah they’re the exact same FM. And yes 100% the tornados are overtiered in ARB, I would even say move them all down to 11.0 because right now they’re entirely uncompetitive with very average speed and mediocre turn performance with only 2 Aim-9L. Yes they carry lots of bombs but that only makes you even slower and tbh bombing shouldn’t be the main focus of ARB balancing. In terms of air-to-air the Tornado IDS has no business facing 12.3 vehicles in an uptier. Decompression could probably solve this but we know the likelihood of that happening…
Yeah, that nerf alone made me think it should have gone down to 7.3, not moved up
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Air realistic battles
Ayit 9.3->9.7
Missiles with absurd range/turn for 9.3 alongside flares. Basically a10 jr, and even though it’s in Israel tree it isn’t even that rare to be seen in game, so there must be some statistics to back this up. Doesn’t matter if it’s slower and out turned by everyone else it’s too good at third partying from a long range.
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Can we please put the harrier gr7 at 12.0 for air at least like why is a harrier at 12.3 while the mig 23ml and mld are 11.7
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If its to go up then it should be Malawi spec with an electronic traverse to get its old 60deg/s back
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It’s broken as it is. it’s better than the gepard in almost every way at the same BR.
They don’t have stabilization, so let’s move all 8.3s up?
T-55A is not even close to being the best 8.3 and you want to move it up, interesting.
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Remove AHEAD leave it at 8.3, it was at the same BR with no issues for ages. Again now the 8.3 lineup relies on a Zeus with proxy rounds…
Gepard is faster with a lil bit more gun depression.
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Increase max BR for Air AB, Air RB & Air SB
3 fighter aircraft to 14.3
- F-16C Block 40 Barak
AIM-9M replace with Python 4, lose AIM-120A & Derby
- F-16D Block 40 Barak
Python 4 instead AIM-9M but remove AIM-7M and Derby
- JAS 39 Gripen C (SAAF)
AIM-9M replace with AIM-2000, lose R-Darter
12 fighter aircraft up to 14.7
- F-15C
AIM-9M & AIM-120A replace with AIM-9X (Blk 1) & AIM-120C-5
- F-15E
AIM-120C-5 to replace AIM-120B and get AIM-120C-7
- F-16C Block 50
AIM-120C-5 & AIM-120C-7 instead AIM-7M & AIM-120A
- F/A-18C late
Add AIM-120C-7, but AIM-120B replace with AIM-120C-5 or AIM-120C-6
- EF-2000 (T2 Blk 10)
Give AIM-120C-5, AIM-9L replace with AIM-2000 (analog)
- F-2000A (T2 Blk 10)
AIM-2000 (analog) to replace AIM-9M and add AIM-120C-5
- Gripen C (RTAF)
AIM-9L & AIM-120B replace with AIM-2000 (analog) & AIM-120C-5
- JAS 39 C EBS HU
AIM-120A replace with AIM-120C-5 & AIM-120C-7
- Su-30SM
Change lock range 16 → 24 km for R-77-1, and receive R-74M
- F-15I Ra’am
AIM-120C-5 instead AIM-120B, Python 4 to replace AIM-9L
- F-16AM MLU
AIM-9L replace with AIM-9X (Blk 1)
- Rafale C F3-R
MICA IR instead magic 2
I don’t know battle rating for ground RB & SB to 12.3 or stay 12.0 if gajin add AGM-114L Hellfire LongBow on AH-64D (US Army) sometime this year
Mode: Simulator Battles
Vehicle: F-16A ADF
BR Change: 13.0 → 12.7
Reasoning:
This aircraft has only two SARH missiles, and AIM-9L’s (not M’s). This variant of the viper is in no way comparable to F3 slingers at 13.0 like the Kfir C.10, JA37DI, F-4F KWS LV, and AV-8B Plus. Heck, armament wise, it’s closer to the F/A-18A.
Yes, I’m referring to the IDS not the ADV and 104S not ASA, as those are much more capable in A2A ordinance. The IDS might not be an ideal baseline for the FGR2 as it’s an attacker, but the 104S and S TAF are both fighters that should be balanced accordingly, and both are already outshined by almost every other fighter at their BR, let alone if the FGR2 had Aim-9Ls to boot. I think decompression would obviously help this whole BR range but one can only wish lol
A suggestion that you should certainly consider:
- either lower T25’s br to 6.0
- or give it a stab like in one of its pilot versions, and keep it on its current br.
The suggestion is based on information from its testing, and on the fact in its current state is not a very competitive medium tank, with terrible acceleration, mediocre armor and bad gun handling, also very constrained by its first-stage ammo, which most of the time leaves it with bad reload.
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One last suggestion
Spitfire mk22
move down to 6.3
It currently has ZERO purpose other than being a worse vehicle to unlock the mk24 at the same BR
having it as 6.3 for its worse performance will make it worth using after the mk24 is unlocked
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Air RB:
German IDS-Tornado
11.7>11.3
Reason:
It brings no advantage over the WTD or Marineflieger Tornado, yet is higher ranked in air than them.
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Again, im not sure why an 11.3 aircraft is relevant to 12.0 aircraft, especially when there are far stronger 12.0 aircraft already there. Like the ADV, F-4S and to a degree the Mirage F1
Very much agreed, the ASA needs to be 11.3 and the S and S TAF need to be 11.0
Literally not what i said at all. I was saying the AMX-30B2s were overtiered. interesting.
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Even without AHEAD it should be a higher BR than the gepard. it gets better penetrating rounds, a laser rangefinder, thermals, IRST and even adjustable suspension. I think with AHEAD it should probably be 9.0.
mig 29 with no r27er and added r73?