Literally not what i said at all. I was saying the AMX-30B2s were overtiered. interesting.
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Pretty sure the late one at least gets flares which is a big boost to its survivability, honestly doesn’t seem TOO unplayable at 10.0 because of that.
Not sure how much worse they are than the mig 19PT/S but the mig 19 is insane at acceleration and keeping speed due to its thrust/weight ratio. Once you get the hang of it it can be a real menace
Even without AHEAD it should be a higher BR than the gepard. it gets better penetrating rounds, a laser rangefinder, thermals, IRST and even adjustable suspension. I think with AHEAD it should probably be 9.0.
mig 29 with no r27er and added r73?
It has the same guns? Again the issue is it leaves the 8.3 lineup with nothing.
The sheer amount of bias in these suggestions…
But different and better ammo across the board. it’s also faster than the gepard with 21.1hp/ton compared to the gepards 18 and the aforementioned adjustable suspension. there is no way they should both be 8.3, even with AHEAD removed.
M1 Abrams
Mode: Ground RB / Ground AB
BR change: None.
Give the original Abrams the M833 round, the M774 pen and damage its pretty subpar to its peers at 10.7. Yes, the tank did use it. Besides there isn’t much difference in game between M774 and M833.
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Nah, firstly the game shouldn’t jump that much rn, but also you’re forgetting a lot of airframes, like all of japan, which makes sense since this is a really big change and not something that would even be considered from a suggestion in a seasonal BR change.
Mode: Air Realistic Battles
Aircraft: BI
Change: 6.7 → 7.3
There is literally nothing props can do vs this aircraft. It is blatantly overpowered and should not be facing props at all.
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Agreed, facing it in a Mig-21 while it being superior in almost every way is nuts
Are there any plans to look at the Ground BR ratings of the Japanese Air tree? The only reason I can think that the F-4EJ Kai is still 11.3 is because there is a plan to give it Mavericks, or that with the release of the F-2, it will be receiving ASM-2 which has a secondary anti-ground function, I believe. The fact that its supersonic, has a PD radar, and AIM-9L isn’t much of an upgrade in GRB over the 12.0 Phantoms that get to be 10.7. I could see an argument maybe if it also got AAM-3, 3 but the fact that F-5s with AGMs get to be 11.0 is a bit silly lol
I also feel that since the F-1 losts its computers does it really need to be at 10.0 in ground battles? Alpha Jets have computers, countermeasures, and some have better missiles and they’re 9.7.
Mode: Realistic Air Battles
Vehicle: Tornado IDS ASSTA1
BR: 11.7 > 11.3 (or 11.7 with AIM-L/i)
Reason:
Currently, the Tornado IDS is overtiered, with its anemic flight model, weak weaponry and air-to-air missiles, it faces threats which has no counter to and full uptiers are brutal. Its play style is no different from its premium counterpart, the WTD61, which sits at 11.3. Alternatively, the Tornado IDS could also receive AIM-L/i which historically uses and stay at 11.7.
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The F-1 would also potentially get the same GCS-1 Guided bomb as the EJ Kai and F-2, if we’re talking about potentials from introduction of stuff next patch if anything it would move up.
Mode: Realistic Battles
Vehicle: M109G
BR Change: 6.0 → 6.3
Reasoning: When it was first added the M109G had lower velocity shell than the M109A1 and justified being a lower BR. Now they both fire shells at the same velocity and are also identical in all stats aside from the M109G being 400kg heavier which is not enough to warrant a different BR.
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This is not true, the PzH 2000 received free NVDs without modification despite being 7.7 and was added well after the Fox. The 2S19 also received them when it was added last patch at 7.0. The same thing can be done for any vehicle below 10.0.
In my opinion, the AMX-40 shouldn’t be moved up. It’s basically a worse version of the Leo 2K/2AV in almost every way, and now it’s at the same BR. It also completely ruins the lineup it was a part of,
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M109G has 70 degrees of gun elevation, whereas the M109A1 has 75 degrees of gun elevation.
Aside from dealing with aircraft, they are pretty much the same, so I can agree with you.
I never use AHEAD, lol the longer barrels means it has the most penetration of any of the 35mm anti air cannons, meaning running around spanking tanks with api ammunition is great. Thermals and irst are good for AA too i suppose.
Very constructive… (not really)