Yeah it’s strange that tanks designed for 800m minimum engagement distance don’t work well on a majority of CQC, sniping/flanking removed maps?
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It’s becoming a pretty clear pattern these days. Funniest part was them upping BR of the recent French tank but not the superior premium version.
Ob292, T-80UD, 2S38 shouldn’t be anywhere close to 10.0, period
Also, please for the love of god decrease SPAA BRs across the board. All of them.
they already do, they even see MiG-17s and Lim-5s right now, Me 262 C at 8.0
Since we have a Max BR of 12.7, for Aviation only(why?) Increase the max BR for Helis/Planes AND tanks to 12.7
Not all spaa, have you seen the ZSU-57-2? Only the ones that have only missiles or (relatively) low pen autocannons should be decreased in br. I don’t want to fight a full auto tank destroyer in my ww2 tank.
yeah no, its better than any 9.3 and still very competent at 9.7 as shown by your 1.59 K/D and for someone that cannot break a 1 K/D in the Bf 109 F-4 and F2G-1, id say its still more that 9.7 worthy
The Q-5 Early should have gone to 8.7 and the Q-5A should have stayed 9.0…
They lock up extremely past 1000km/h and have horrible performance outside of their acceleration, the Q-5A was the only good Q-5 because it had flares and now at 9.3, it’s useless.
I was gonna grind to rank 7 with it and as it is now DOA - going through rank 6 is going to be painful…
Why is CL-13 Mk4(italy) the same BR as F-86 F-30s?
It has the same engine and weapons as the F-86 A-5. The only difference is the BR. if the F-86 A-5 is going to be 8.0, shouldn’t the CL-13 Mk4 also be 8.0?If F-86 A-5 is still 8.3, then CL-13 Mk4 should also be 8.3.
Or do you hate Italy?
I think:
T72AV shoud be 10.3 > good thermals (gunner/comander) and a good enough ammunition
2S38 shoud be 11.3 > can the same things do but better than HSTVL and Otomatic both 11.3 already
BMP2M shoud be 10.7 > out performs all other IFVs in terms of fire power (has more or les the same survivebility and speed compared on 10.0) Object 292 shoud be 10.7 > best bullet pen in game with good damage, decent mobility and armor for its BR T80UD shoud be 10.3/10.7 > its like a Bishma TWMP with faster reload
KF41 shoud be 10.3 > idk why it is on 10.7, it ´s not better than other IVF´s armament wise an average 30mm and 4 Spikes like the Vilkas and the survivebility is average Israely AH-60 shoude be 11.7 > has Spikes and tured mounted 20mm, the USA version doesnt (like the france Tiger HAD is [11.0] and the Tiger HAD Block 2 is [11.7] because it has Spikes )
( only the vehicles I´m aware of and care)
in my opinion
I think it’s really important to note that the current VAB modelled in-game is the upgraded variant from the early 2000s. Among other things, the dead giveaway is the tail lights:
From a historical standpoint it makes no sense that the Mephisto isn’t using HOT-3s if they were being used (since 1993) well before it actually existed.
I recommend
SPAA VEK40
RB 8.7-9.0
mystere IVA at 8.3 is deserved
It even sucks in direct comparison to all the other choppers at the same BR. As I said its literally defenseless. Not to mention that PARS dont work the moment there is a leaf infront of the target. You have to expose yourself several seconds to ensure a kill by firing multiple missiles at the target. The seeker often times doesnt even acquire the correct target or wont even activate. It would be fine where it is if it had working PARS and self-defense capabilities which it has not.
I recommend playing it and tell me how good the experience was being a free kill for everyone. Not mentioning how map dependent it is.
When i was spading the venom i found it quite fun, its everything the vampire tries to be, its not hte best 8.7 but it surely is competent though 8.3 would be nice
desperately needed, it might even be able to go to 7.3 and be fine, after spading all but 3 UK tech tree vehicles it is the most painful to spade (and i include the Stirlings and Firebrand in that list)
its more the fact that the 24 is 0.7 higher than the P-51H despite beign roughly equivalent, though it is a bit miserable at 7.0 getting 8.0 games, but it is great in a downteir, and the 22 is find at 6.7 imo it could go down but its just a 24 with less engine power which made it 6.7 in th efirst place but yet again the 6.7 MM is much better than the 7.0 MM
the Hunter F.1 is ok but it needs to be played very carefully, 8.7 would be more than welcome
Flight performance wise it fixes most of what the F.1 lacked, it pulls harder and has a stronger engine, but its an SRAAM issue, 4 garunteed kills if you move it to 9.3 and then get a downtier
ive not used the chruchill 1 but i see the 2 pounder at 3.3 and no mobility with the useless 76 hull gun
and the churchill 7 is sad and include the croc with this, all its good as is surviving, but weakspots are prevalent and apart from that your just a shell barge
no, its one of the strongest BR for BR vehicles britain gets and provides utility nothing else in the UK tree can offer as of yet (Maybe after we get some more of our damned IFVs that havy something other than the Rarden), the 5.3 - 8.3 gap needs tobe filled, could be filled by a Blowpipe armed land rover which would not be too easy to use but would be a very competent SPAA in skilled hands but there isnt much that can truely close that gap, plus rovinging is APDS would remove its ability to melt Raketenautomats (such annoying fuckers) and Leo 1s and any other tank with armour but not thick armour
Or give it its 5s reload
but it would be nice to add it to the 8.3 lineup, as it stands its equivalent to the vik 3
its needed, the striker is so niche, with its minimum engagement range and having no autocannon armament, with the BMP-2 at 0.3 higher, and M3 Bradley and Warrior at the same BR, it would go down to match the Swingfire at current positon and move the swingfire to 7.7 or back to 7.3 also it does not make sense for this to be the end of line vehicle, swap it with the Warrior in the tech tree, especcially as the ZT3A2 is now now 8.3, would make more sense to folder it with the Swingfire though, being a direct upgrade
Way to piss off literally everyone once again lmao.
Except razer ofcourse.
Every single 5.0 tank can trivially deal with the M-51 by simply clicking on the UFP. It has the armour of a 3.3 tank.
The M-51 is not an overpowered vehicle. It might actually be the worst 6.0 in the game.
The AMX 30 dca doesn’t even have a stabilizer and it goes to 8.7 where tanks have had one already at 7.7… It looks like Gaijin wants to stop us from playing French tanks…
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None of the M-18s need to go up. Especially the Super Hellcat. With up-tiers being a constant pain in this game, it has absolutely no business fighting 7.0 and 7.7 tanks. Absolutely against that.
Since nothing has changed regarding 2S38, I’ll just copy-paste my reply from previous BR changes
AB and RB
2S38
10.0 → 10.7
Why?
Great firepower and aircraft tracking which makes it jack of all trades to some extent by being both capable anti-tank and anti-aircraft due to APFSDS and HE-VT shells coupled with decent rate of fire.
In downtiers it’s not uncommon to see players in this vehicle rack up upwards to 10 kills because tanks in those BRs don’t have much armor (example being Leopard 1A5)
