what they should do is add destroying the main airfield for All BRs, you stil have the small airfield to go to, just that it will not have any AA which is a punishment for not being able to intercept a fat slow weak target which is largely defenceless, meaning that the fighters on the team can mop up the enemy fighters easier as they cannot RTB as safely (also Prop Airfield AA is better than Top tier Airfield AA, them god damn aimbot AAA gunners eing able to hit a manoevering target moving at mach 0.6-7 at 5km away while even the most heavily laden tornado can easily dodge the rolands, only the VEAKs actually shoot anythign down, and by the time they shoot the damage is already done)
epesccially when compared with the BT-5, the same BR but faster and has more armour, with the same cannon
do not the 288C, when seperate BRs come maybe, already a nightmare enough for other bombers for each 288 only being able to bomb 1 base each, let alone 2
Ozelot and Kugelblitz should go down .3 each.
Ozelot to 9.3 and Kugelblitz to 6.7.
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Please for the love of God leave the Italian players something fun to fly. The AMX does not need to fight F-14s in a full uptier, if the problem is it being op in ground battles, then give it separate BRs.
The G-91 Y and YS need to go down too as there is literally no reason to play them at 9.3/9.7 when they face all aspect missiles with no flares and weak missiles.
Also why does the Italian F-104G get 2 less sidewinders than it’s German cousin?
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I often get more up tiers past 10.3 than I do down tiers. Maybe because Italy, idk.
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M18 GMC at 6.0 ?? What a joke, what’s next, M4A3E2 Jumbo from 5.7 up to 6.7?? BR 7.0-8.0 will soon be non-existent. Are we all supposed to play 6.7 lineup since it never changes? Tier 3 vehicles slowly becoming Tier 4, meanwhile the vehicles in Tier 4 stay where they are. Are you playing 5.7 Lineup and get constant full uptiers? It’s only going to get worse, you can already rename the Preset from “5.7” to “soon to be 6.3”.
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That would be a yes and no. Reintroducing destroying the airfield would be a good way to make sure that bombers actually have a chance at affecting the game. However, id say this should be capped at 8.0-9.0. After that, there will be a lot more CAS and fighter labelled aircraft that relies on bombing to gain RP as well, eg, the removed dassault milan, Su-7, etc. This would mean only the Tu-4 in a full uptier would be affected on the other hand.
RIP USA 5.7 you will be missed.
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Come play italy 6.0
We got a hellcat, a tiger, two big he slingers, one of the best CAS at the BR, one of the best fighter for GRB at the BR, the R3 and a literal leopard
:DDD
I wouldn’t want either the Centurion Mk2 or the M551(76) to be moved higher.
M551(76) In my opinion, it is weaker than the Centurion and should not go higher, there are many better vehicles than it, for example the Super Hellcat, where you have a 90mm cannon and better mobility. The amount of ammunition in the M551(76) is very small, which in itself This tank is already balanced and in my opinion they shouldn’t move it.
From what I saw in battles, people didn’t do any good with this Sheridan, so there is no point in moving it. Honestly, personally I would rather play M26 on 6.7 than in this Sheridan.
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Why change the AMX (plane) to 10.7 when A6E is 10.3 with better munitions and the A10S and SU25s are 10.0? I guess Italy truly suffers, 10.7 has no line up
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And the Shenyang f-5
Yes I feel like they completely forgot about the minor nation sub-sonic fighters
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yeah I thought about it and made a new post on the thread actually understanding how horrid it being 10.7 would be
@Community Managers…
You change the AMX from 10.3 to 10.7 but it has in fact 1:1 the same capabilities as the A6 Tram which is at 10.3. Premium vs Tech Tree treatment? Please community Manager, give me a statement. What is the thought behind of this?
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This is not a great BR change.
So, let’s point out why this BR change is not good.
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MiG-15, 17 and F-86 downtier.
Terrible, just terrible. Those things are already fine at their BRs… Sure, you will fight the ocassional F–104s and other supersonics, but isn’t this something every other 8.3+ fighters have to deal with ? Even then, the MiG and Sabres outperforms things like the Mysteres and G.91s. You’re telling me while the extremely powerful MiG-17 gets a downtier to 8.7, the Mystere IV has to wait and get shredded ? What about the G.91s ? These two planes are toe to toe against their respective MiGs and Sabres, and now they are getting shredded by their better versions ? -
M18 uptier. WHY ?!
This is a dumb idea. The bloody thing is not going to survive a constant match against King Tigers. Look, you could put it at 6.0 only if it gets the APCR round, which you did not give. -
AMX-30 DCA uptiering
Why did you uptier it to 8.7 ? The bloody thing’s inferior to a Gepard and all its derivatives. It should be tied to the Gepard. -
BMP-1 going up. What is wrong with you ?
I hate BMP-1s as much as the many other people do. But, it isn’t even that great at its BR, it sits perfectly there. You don’t need to prolong the suffering of the poor BMPs.
My extra recommendations:
G.91Y and YS. You see, why are these planes at 9.3 and 9.7 ? These vehicles are barely supersonic, armed with a pair of unideal missiles and gets shredded by everyone. Put em at 9.0 and 9.3, PLEASE!
Mirage F1. Pain, please, lower its BR to 11.0. Even then, it wouldn’t rip anything.
Next, the AMX-30B2 and BRENUS. Put it at 8.3. That lack of a stabiliser is an utter pain. They can’t compete with anything.
(all of these recommendations are ONLY FOR RB)
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you can often disable a tank in 1 shot but not kill, if it takes 2 shells for a kill with the fireflys reaload thats of 5.9 seconds for 5 shots (ready rack) which is 1 kill every 11.8 seconds, with that decreasing to (with i think it is a 1.5x reload multiplier) a kill every 17.7 seconds, the M4A3 has APHE and can still pen most of what it faces when in the same lobby as the Firefly (4.7-5.7) and has the same reload as the Firefly, at 5.9 seconds, so it can kill a tank evert 5.9 seconds, In addition it doesnt have a ready rack, so it can keep that 5.9 secodn reload for all 71 shells,
this matters cuase you can move onto the next target quicker, sitting there reloading to kill a target leaves you open to being shot by someone else you couldve shot if you didnt need to take 2 shots to kill
meaning that the US 75 and russian 76mm cannot pen it without aiming for much smaller weak spots
75mm M3 M61 Shell : 104mm Penetration
17 Pndr Shot Mk.8: 190mm penetatration
Almost Double, Not Triple, if you are talking about the 17 Pnder APDS with 269mm pen, the firefly doesnt have that (bar the Italian one at 5.0) even then thats ingoring the woes of the 76mm APDS which either does no spall or just shatters
he says as he has a 1.21K/D in the M4A3 at 5.7 and a 1.2K/D in the 4.7 Firefly, meaning you do better in the M4A3 … a whole 1.0 Higher
And the Firefly haas the alrge wweak spots and APHE, shoot at the heatches and its a one shot for the M4A2 and has a 5.0 second reload top, and a short stop, while yes the 17 pounder is fairly efficient as dealing with shermans and will probabally kill in 1 shot aswell the time it takes for the gun to settle means the M4A2 could squeeze a shot in and kill the firefly before hand, but in the end, these are seperate BRs for a reason and a direct comparison 1v1 is by no means representative of the greater game senario, like the T-50 and Archer, yes the archer has the 17 pounder and at the same BR the T-50 is better in pretty much every way and much more useful in the game senario
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lol You don’t know how MiG-15bis ISh is ALREADY cracked at 8.3.
And funny how it will move down to 8.0BR for somehow.
It is literally worse than 2014 jet matchmakers.
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I think that there are missed vehicles that need help … and some that are over-performing such as the fuji . Please reconsider the merkava 2d to have a lineup at 9.3… this thing doesn’t deserve to be at 9.7 because playing Israel is a nightmare on its own. also, CV90105 is way over performing and should be at 10.3.