khm low tier japanese planes lmao. I love how clueless players start to turnfight with them.
I think i need to learn some english here, what does APHE mean? What does the HE part mean, is it like you stuff some heckin egg in an ap? I dont think thats needed for a kill huh.
/s
F for A6M5 ko
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Ground:
L-62 ANTI change is unnecessary. It’s weak armor, slow speed, and limited ammunition are large enough trade offs for the solid round.
M42 change in the US TT highlights the massive gap in the SPAA line that is rank 4.
ZSD63/PG87 if you’re going to up this BR to 5.0 why not increase it’s rank and folder it with the Phong Khong T-34.
AMX-30 DCA seems like an absolute unnecessary change that’ll just mess with a lower BR 8.0-8.3 line up.
Aviation:
The problem with most of the aviation changes can be summed up in trying to force higher mid tier jets vs upper low-mid tier jets to avoid missiles. Because like the F-86-25 and others at 8.7 they go up against super sonic 9.3-9.7 aviation that often have missiles which they have no flares to actually do anything about. While in GRB these aren’t really an issue air AB and RB needs drastic decompression to prevent subsonic jets with no missiles or counter measures from going up against vastly superior aircraft.
What this new BR spread is going to look like is a Me262 C-1a going up against a Mig-15bis. Which can go an additional 50% fast and is more maneuverable. This is just going to create problematic match ups making certain BR tiers less fun. This is coming from a player whose now spending time working his way up their air TTs properly.
Suggestions:
Address issues like the F-104A which only has 1 re-searchable weapon modification for it’s 2 AIM-9B’s which should be stock because grinding that with only it’s cannon is ludicrous.
When you balance BR’s don’t just balance them by win rate but by tech. What’s it’s max speed? What munitions did it have access too? How maneuverable was it compared to others that share a similar speed? Does it have counter measures? Does it have radar?
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It is a masterpiece in a vakuum, honestly. Yes, it’s a great tank, but does it need to go up? I don’t think so. Yes, you can angle it for it’s armor to perform well, but that only works in 1v1s. It has a great gun, but other tanks at and above it’s BR have even better guns.
Yes, bad german players at that BR range probably pull the statistics down a little, but the same goes for USA and USSR tanks at that BR range. If anything, it’s a compression issue again, because I don’t see it at 6.3 if you have the much better King Tigers at 6.7, which I don’t see at 7.0 when there’s stuff like the IS-3, T-44-100 and T29, etc.
The statistics would probably work better if toptier was a few steps higher so WW2 and cold war could be decompressed and modern era just went up altogether.
For now, Italy does not have a decent 10.7/11.0 lineup. With the AMX going to 10.7, Italian players will have to either build a lineup around this plane or take it to 11.3. I think the former choice is somewhat silly because you will need to fight top-tier vehicles with Leo A4.
This BR change should happen after Gaijin releases some 11.0 vehicles for Italy, not now.
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I agree on your other points but not here. With sidewinders or not, the starfighter is just one of if not the best fighter at the BR.
Wait… Are you suggesting we do a total decompression? Sounds like a novel idea 😂
The Q-5A going to 9.3 should be reverted. It does not make sense when the subsonics are going down to 8.3-8.0. It going to 9.3 would not make it very competitive, since it’s still a worse MIG-19.
It’s a good plane, but not good enough for 9.3.
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Despite how bad the KF41 is id call it playable. I dont like this change but it is understandable, after all, its still better than the Su-22M3.
Facing FRR and pantsirs sure, but neither can the Su-22M3 and the F-5E, other common choices for CAS at the BR.
All realistic mode.
Softstat change suggestions:
Pz III Ausf. E-J turret speed to 14°/sec (from 12°/sec) like the other Pz IIIs allready have, they are all hand traversed (so there arent any tests and its a soft stat by the human) they are all at low Br and even Reserve tanks. At the lower ranks mobility is key, pretty much every other tank has a much faster turret traverse as well as general mobility.
The Pz IIIs also have not much armor (30mm and the J 50mm) and all have allmost the same traverse mechanism as well
Give the He grenades to Rank I and II, with Overpressure and many unarmored or thinnly armored vehicles, especially if your tank doesnt have a coax (P.204 (f) for example) and most can be effective.
Especially the Pz III Ausf. F and J which have the 5 cm KwK 38 L/42, the Sprgr. 38 has 200g Fp.02 and Np.10 with an TnT aquivalent of 256g thats more than enove to Overpressure enemys.
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I agree with all of these suggestions. Especially the OTOMATIC. Don’t move the AMX while you’re at it. It does not have anything special over it’s other 10.3 counterparts (A-6E, A-10, Su-25 etc.) There are plently of attackers at 10.3 already are identical or similar in effectiveness. To single out the AMX is simply cruel.
Br Changes:
Panzer IV Ausf. E 2.0 → 1.7
It is basically in between the Pz IV Ausf. C and F1, tho at the same Br as F1, even tho it only has mere 30mm frontal turret armor, and mostly 20mm side and back armor. While it has 10mm more Frontal hull protection, however that has holes with just 30mm. There isnt really a reason to play the E over the F1, as you cant even properly angle, because of the 20mm side, which can even be penetrated by relatively more powerfull 37mm guns.
Bf 110 C-6 3.0 → 2.3
Reason: The better C-7 is 2.7 which is better because: Armored glass, can carry bombs and has 2x 20mm Mg FF/M and faster while the C-6 cant have bombs has no 20mm and is fixed with the 30mm Mk 101. In comparison the Hs 129 B-2 which is also at 2.3 has more armor, 2x 20mm Mg 151/20 and 2x Mg 17 (instead of 4x Mg 17) and a Mk 103 with 100 instead of 60 rounds and higher fire rate. It overall exchanges most of it offencive firepower for a better flightperformance.
Hs 129 B-2 2.3 → 2.0 while the Offencive Firepower is good, it has no defencive armarment and is quite slow with usually 250-300 km/h, especially in an uptier to 3.3 the power increase to other planes is extreme and the Hs 129 cant even escape, escaping from Biplanes (like the russian ones) is even complicated).
Planes should not sit at too low of a BR just to fit a ground lineup. If the plane isn’t balanced it needs to go up. And the AMX is much better than something like a JaguarGR1A, A-10 late or AJ37.
Do 217 N-1 2.7 → 2.3 it is a Do 217 J with radar a little bit stronger (but also heavyer) engines (1430 hp to 1580 (150hp more)), changes the 20mm Mg FF/M to Mg 151/20 which are also heavyer (but fire the same rounds and) and has on paper a tiny little improvement in climp (5,9 to 6,8 (0,9 more) and such but because its also a good tat heavyer flyes even worse.
Same goes for N-2 2.7 → 2.3 its even worse as it changes the (useless anyway) small bombload and the 2x only def 13mm Mg 131 for 4x 20mm Mg 151/20 in Schrägemusik position which really is only dead weight and also changes once again the camo from Black to White with black spots.
And move the Do 217 N-1 and N-2 in front of Ju 88 C-6
Ju 87 D-5 3.3 → 2.3 It has worse bomb load than the D-3 (no 1000kg bomb, and less 500 kg loadouts (no 3x 500kg bomb loadout), while also the flightperformance doesnt change and the very aquivalent plane,
the Il 2 Mod. 1941 with 2x 20mm Shvak and 2x Shkas is at 2.3 (while also having a wider arrangement of explosives, such as Bombs and rockets) And even the mod 1942 sits at 3.0
Switch the Ju 87 D-3 and D-5 folder with the Hs 129 B folder, to have all Ju 87s in a row.
In the folder change the Hs 129 B-2 and B-3, to be in chronological order.
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What an absolute joke, completely ignoring multiple broken vehicles, I’m not even going to bother listing them because it’s the SAME OLD VEHICLES IGNORED EVERY SINGLE BR UPDATE. Fox was good for 1 patch HAMMED WITH BR INCREASE. Meanwhile a certain 10.0 line up is just coasting away smashing the life put of 9.0 vehicles. I’m so GLAD there’s other games to play because the devs are absolutely TONE DEAF with this one. PREDICTABLE.
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Tiger should just stay over there. I brought it up only bcs of the statistics of german wr.
Cant really argue with this statement, tho Tiger’s nuke shell is much more reliable then the others (I might be wrong about it, and this statement is purely based on my experiences)
Balancing is, and will be a issue always.