It would be nice to see the HSTV-L move down to 11.0. It’s only a small step, and it puts it with a solid lineup of vehicles (the M1A1 and M1 IP).
With that said, I believe it would be reasonable to see the M1128 make it’s way to 10.3. I like it at 10.0, but I understand full and well realistically it is probably a 10.3 vehicle.
That’s all! Hopefully these go over well.
of course it should. AA should only look at the sky.
Yes, if it takes more than 1 shot to disable a tank it’s really a skill issue, especially with full-calibre AP. I’d advise learning where the crew are positioned in common enemy vehicles, as you can typically take out the commander, driver, and gunner with a single shot. If the vehicle doesn’t die from that, then a follow-up will finish them off as they sit helplessly.
The same as in like the stabilizer, the added gun depression is nice but doesn’t really warrant even a .3 increase in BR
Completely ignoring that a more powerful gun means that more targets become available at suboptimal ranges and angles. War Thunder isn’t and shouldn’t be an open-plains front-on slap fight!
Again, this is assuming optimal conditions. A firefly can penetrate any tank much more reliably at a much wider variety of ranges and angles than anything with the aforementioned weapons.
The M4A2 has better armour only by removing the small weak spots. The stabilizer is a short-stop, which is nice, but you seem to be forgetting that you’re comparing the 75mm ME to the 17 pounder with nearly triple the penetration! I guarantee that the Firefly has a much better chance against any 5.7 than an M4A2 has against the firefly.
Yeah exactly, the SPAA balance system is just a bit flimsy atm, its kinda like deciding where to draw the line between light tank and SPAA
Yes, by all means. Continue to compress the early jet matchmaker. The problem is your cashcows at 10.3 and 10.0. Decompress the entire br range.
Yup.
Given its chassis and lack of proxy, I consider the Leo 40/70 more of a LT then SPAA.
Yep, I run that and yeah, I play quite a bit of Buc S2, but saving the spade bonus for something. But it’s also difficult to judge the S2B as it has placeholder RWR and the Buc S2 should get the same radar.
Moving the M18s to 6.0 is an illogical decision
Not really, at least not all of them. Stuff like the L-62 ANTI II, or that 37mm russian SPAA, are far more LT’s with rapid fire guns then SPAA in function, and imo should be balanced as such.
Really not a fan of the strategy of shifting the pain onto 7.0-7.7 jets versus just moving the clusterfuck of 10.0-10.3 up (or god forbid shifting everything past 10.0 up by 0.3 but decompression is a myth around these parts).
Imagine getting your first jet like a 262 or meteor mk 3 and you get to face an A-5 sabre or mig-15
The devs make BR changes at least partially based on player feedback. Just watch, there’ll be an updated list in perhaps a week based on this thread.
But I wasn’t even talking about the BR changes when I said that people fixate on vehicle’s weaknesses rather than learning to use their strengths, asking for them to be ever-lower in BR until everything is a compressed mess. I am strictly speaking about this forum and what I have seen in it. Take a look around and you’ll see. There are some exceptions where people want the vehicles they don’t use raised, but the vast majority or requested changes are for buffs with no BR change or BR decreases without nerfs. Not to mention the discussion on essentially every new vehicle suggestion, where too many people want the vehicle to be in the top 10% of whatever BR it’s added in to avoid being “DOA” and keep it “competitive”, powercreep be damned.
Yeah, if it had an original chassis, radar, proxy rounds or realy any defining feature of an spaa, it would make sense, but right now its a downgraded begleitpanzer
hard agree on all except f104 cause it already faces all aspect missiles and theres literally nothing it can do bout it
Stock R60M for the Mig21Bis variants is a welcomed change, having to fight f16 and the lot with R13 was basically impossible
I dont play Japan but I do use the Japanese planes in the Chinese tree, specifially the Ki-44-II Hei and the Premium A6M2, I’ve had countless people try and turnfight me but end up dying when all they would’ve had to do is literally anything else. The planes arent that fast which is their downfall. But people dont understand that and people who play Japan and China have to pay for it.
It’s a problematic aircraft, at lower BRs, it becomes impossible to fight, since it can just extend and noone is going to catch it, which just drags the games on, but higher up it cant compete against modern missiles with no CM
And stuff like the .50cal/.30cal/some 20mm SPAA is far more dedicated SPAA.
So Italy at 10.3 will not have CAS Jet, only a helicopter, congratulations, continue like this…
T-34 1941 being moved at the same BR as the T-34 1942 and T-34E-STZ when it’s has less armour. No sense. At least need the panzer 4 H too
Haha exactly, its like comparing the M16 MGMC and L62 Anti-II, both are ‘anti aircraft’ weapons, both 2.7, but one is much much better at destroying tanks, the other is much much better at destroying aircraft