Depends on the speed heavily. From 400-500 mph j32 is nimble other than that the f100s airframe is way more maneuverable. That little bit of space to be more maneuverable i dont think justifies the same BR
Yup!
ANTI II absolutely deserved going up though, that thing was busted.
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I very much agree the j29f and the the j32b are at too high of a br for their performance.
Woah I agree with this entire proposal of changes. Great job with that list. Especially the one about the F4EJ. This plane is so sad. Having 8 missiles is irrelevant when the Aim7E are basically deadweight for 95% of the match.
If you move F14A, 2000-S4 to 12.0, then I believe Viggen model D and Mig23 MLD can move to 11.7 as well. F4EJ Kai can stay at 11.7 probably, even if it’s quite strong at this BR.
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If you are really going to go the way of moving 8.3-9.3 subsonics down by a BR step, I also expect the Hunter F.1, J34, J29F, Super Mystere, G.91Y/YS, Sagittario 2, and a bunch of other jets that i forgot to move down.
I still advise against moving all of these down when an easier solution is just moving the F-104A/C menace up.
AMX ->10.7 good change
AJS37 → 10.7 leave it at 11.0
PB4Y → 4.7 awful change, please stop moving bombers down in BR and making them harder to kill
some of my own suggestions
Sagittario 2 → 9.0 this aircraft does not need to be the same BR as its upgraded sister the Ariete.
Ki-200 and Me 163 (all variants) → 8.3 i hope you know why
F-5E → 11.0 this jet stomps 10.7 and has no reason to stay here longer
F-5A China → 10.3 an AIM-9P is no reason to move it up.
Hunter F.1 → 8.7 this thing genuinely is miserable at 9.0
Hunter F.6 → 9.3 also happens to suck at 9.7
All RB suggestions.
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https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/YflyEnJwXBz8
I requested changes to them all, although just minor buffs.
Theyre not identical. French Roland only has around 45-50° of elevation while amercan and german have 85°. The french rolan also doesnt have IRST Search and track like the XM975 and flarak. The Roland 1 only has IRST track.
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super mystère is a supersonic plane, but only not in WT.
So the M18s get a slight power bump and immediately move up in BR? Why not see how they perform first?
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What
They simply can’t let the Brits have nice things very long at all. And it’s a shame, indeed. Guess I know what I’m playing tonight while I still can.
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What?
They got buffed, and were already performing well, why would they not move
The T25 lost its stabilizer and didn’t move down.
haha funnily enough I’ve been playing it for the last few hours (mainly as a side vehicle cause i was messing around with the BT-42 at low tier) and its like the PT-76-57 of low tier
I’m not doing this, how is a T25 a M18
The Fox is smaller and more mobile than the BTR-80 with a much more powerful cannon than the Weisel, both of which are 7.3. It never deserved 7.0.
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Actually some of the least thought out BR changes I’ve ever seen. Further proof y’all don’t actually play your own game. If this holds I can guarantee you they’ll stomp and you’ll move them up again to compensate for how insanely overperforming they’ll be. Actually just going to ruin the 7.0-7.7 BR bracket until these changes are reverted.
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I never said it was. My point is you can’t assume a buff or nerf will result in better or worse performance. Player stats dictate BR, not assumptions.
All of the vamps and venoms are badly overtiered.
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