Why is CL-13 Mk4(italy) the same BR as F-86 F-30s?
It has the same engine and weapons as the F-86 A-5. The only difference is the BR. if the F-86 A-5 is going to be 8.0, shouldn’t the CL-13 Mk4 also be 8.0?If F-86 A-5 is still 8.3, then CL-13 Mk4 should also be 8.3.
Or do you hate Italy?
I think:
T72AV shoud be 10.3 > good thermals (gunner/comander) and a good enough ammunition
2S38 shoud be 11.3 > can the same things do but better than HSTVL and Otomatic both 11.3 already
BMP2M shoud be 10.7 > out performs all other IFVs in terms of fire power (has more or les the same survivebility and speed compared on 10.0) Object 292 shoud be 10.7 > best bullet pen in game with good damage, decent mobility and armor for its BR T80UD shoud be 10.3/10.7 > its like a Bishma TWMP with faster reload
KF41 shoud be 10.3 > idk why it is on 10.7, it ´s not better than other IVF´s armament wise an average 30mm and 4 Spikes like the Vilkas and the survivebility is average Israely AH-60 shoude be 11.7 > has Spikes and tured mounted 20mm, the USA version doesnt (like the france Tiger HAD is [11.0] and the Tiger HAD Block 2 is [11.7] because it has Spikes )
( only the vehicles I´m aware of and care)
in my opinion
I think it’s really important to note that the current VAB modelled in-game is the upgraded variant from the early 2000s. Among other things, the dead giveaway is the tail lights:
From a historical standpoint it makes no sense that the Mephisto isn’t using HOT-3s if they were being used (since 1993) well before it actually existed.
I recommend
SPAA VEK40
RB 8.7-9.0
mystere IVA at 8.3 is deserved
It even sucks in direct comparison to all the other choppers at the same BR. As I said its literally defenseless. Not to mention that PARS dont work the moment there is a leaf infront of the target. You have to expose yourself several seconds to ensure a kill by firing multiple missiles at the target. The seeker often times doesnt even acquire the correct target or wont even activate. It would be fine where it is if it had working PARS and self-defense capabilities which it has not.
I recommend playing it and tell me how good the experience was being a free kill for everyone. Not mentioning how map dependent it is.
When i was spading the venom i found it quite fun, its everything the vampire tries to be, its not hte best 8.7 but it surely is competent though 8.3 would be nice
desperately needed, it might even be able to go to 7.3 and be fine, after spading all but 3 UK tech tree vehicles it is the most painful to spade (and i include the Stirlings and Firebrand in that list)
its more the fact that the 24 is 0.7 higher than the P-51H despite beign roughly equivalent, though it is a bit miserable at 7.0 getting 8.0 games, but it is great in a downteir, and the 22 is find at 6.7 imo it could go down but its just a 24 with less engine power which made it 6.7 in th efirst place but yet again the 6.7 MM is much better than the 7.0 MM
the Hunter F.1 is ok but it needs to be played very carefully, 8.7 would be more than welcome
Flight performance wise it fixes most of what the F.1 lacked, it pulls harder and has a stronger engine, but its an SRAAM issue, 4 garunteed kills if you move it to 9.3 and then get a downtier
ive not used the chruchill 1 but i see the 2 pounder at 3.3 and no mobility with the useless 76 hull gun
and the churchill 7 is sad and include the croc with this, all its good as is surviving, but weakspots are prevalent and apart from that your just a shell barge
no, its one of the strongest BR for BR vehicles britain gets and provides utility nothing else in the UK tree can offer as of yet (Maybe after we get some more of our damned IFVs that havy something other than the Rarden), the 5.3 - 8.3 gap needs tobe filled, could be filled by a Blowpipe armed land rover which would not be too easy to use but would be a very competent SPAA in skilled hands but there isnt much that can truely close that gap, plus rovinging is APDS would remove its ability to melt Raketenautomats (such annoying fuckers) and Leo 1s and any other tank with armour but not thick armour
Or give it its 5s reload
but it would be nice to add it to the 8.3 lineup, as it stands its equivalent to the vik 3
its needed, the striker is so niche, with its minimum engagement range and having no autocannon armament, with the BMP-2 at 0.3 higher, and M3 Bradley and Warrior at the same BR, it would go down to match the Swingfire at current positon and move the swingfire to 7.7 or back to 7.3 also it does not make sense for this to be the end of line vehicle, swap it with the Warrior in the tech tree, especcially as the ZT3A2 is now now 8.3, would make more sense to folder it with the Swingfire though, being a direct upgrade
Way to piss off literally everyone once again lmao.
Except razer ofcourse.
Every single 5.0 tank can trivially deal with the M-51 by simply clicking on the UFP. It has the armour of a 3.3 tank.
The M-51 is not an overpowered vehicle. It might actually be the worst 6.0 in the game.
The AMX 30 dca doesn’t even have a stabilizer and it goes to 8.7 where tanks have had one already at 7.7… It looks like Gaijin wants to stop us from playing French tanks…
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None of the M-18s need to go up. Especially the Super Hellcat. With up-tiers being a constant pain in this game, it has absolutely no business fighting 7.0 and 7.7 tanks. Absolutely against that.
Since nothing has changed regarding 2S38, I’ll just copy-paste my reply from previous BR changes
AB and RB
2S38
10.0 → 10.7
Why?
Great firepower and aircraft tracking which makes it jack of all trades to some extent by being both capable anti-tank and anti-aircraft due to APFSDS and HE-VT shells coupled with decent rate of fire.
In downtiers it’s not uncommon to see players in this vehicle rack up upwards to 10 kills because tanks in those BRs don’t have much armor (example being Leopard 1A5)
so basically Sdkfz 234/2 has no right to go up in br
M18s also shouldnt go up
WHY are bmp1s going up to 8.0 ?
also how much do you hate british vehicles that the only enjoyable vehicle they have will go to 7.7 for no reason
and for the plane changes how about raise the Br and push the planes up instead of making 7.0-7.3 planes unplayable?
Please move the t32 to 7.0 and the t32e1 to 7.3
As someone who plays a ton of 7.0 Britain way before they added the fox, i didn’t even bother bringing the tortoise in that line up after a bit despite there being only 2 7.0s. I brought 6.3s like the charioteer instead. It can stay at 6.7
The Conc doesn’t have heatfs.
The reason the 17pdr tanks are lower is they have no explosive filler. They also have 1 less crew.
You didn’t move a single British or French (and im sure more) plane between 7.0 and 9.0.
People have already been calling for many of these aircraft to be adjusted down and yet you move the perfectly capable and largely well balanced aircraft down and ignore these already struggling aircraft.
For the air changes these need to be completely redone, from the ground up.
A br bump to a maximum of 13.0 is also needed at a minimum particularly if Fox-3s are to come as commonplace in the next major update.
reduce the Ariete in SIM to 8.7
It shares the same stats as the Sagitario 2 at 8.0 with the single advantage of another engine so it accelerates better.
At 9.0 it faces planes that are it’s equal in speed and manoeuvrability but now facing missiles with no flares. At 9.3+ it is totally outclassed.
You previously increased it’s BR by 0.7 in 1 go… this was too much.
If you make a suggestion for BR changes in sim they shut it down ‘wait for the next BR changes’… and then don’t include them anyway, or just ignore suggestions.
Gaijin are only consistent in their inconsistency.
Yeah sim needs another solid look at. most of these are pretty good - though there are a few that i dont agree with all due to the same reason that while they might not be strictly the best jet at their current br, if they fought anything lower they would simply just start stomping lobbies. These being the AJ37 and F1C’s. They have such a massive advantage compared to 9.7-10.3 or 11.0 stuff in either flight performance, avionics/defenses systems or weapons that the proposed competition will simply no longer be viable.
I can sympathise with the frogfoot & harrier down tier - its often a suffering experience playing slow cas at this br but i dont think it would be necessary. They have ample weapons to do their job and a generational advantage in air to air weapons to defend themselves with, unmolested they can win matches in short order with their good ground pounding capability. I think a more worthy contender for going down a step to 11.0 would be the su25BM as while it does have the air to air weapons it’s air to ground ordinance is more equivalent to a 10-10.7 loadout and certainly lacks similar capabilities of the other frogs or most cas at 11.3.
Another one i would add is the j35 draken currently at 9.7, that should be at 10.0 with other pure fighters which have a generational step up in flight performance and weapons to match such as the mig21s r-13-300 which sits at 10.0 currently - having drakens face sabers and mig15/17’s is asinine. You could potentially throw in the 9.7 104’s in that category too now i think of it.
Thats all i can think of for now.
