Israel
Machbet
Ground Realistic
9.3 → 10.7
Again, basically just the LAV-AD but for Israel. Long range IRCCM missiles and an IRST guided gun for close range. IRCCM does not belong facing flareless post-war jets.
(note)
In accordance with early SAMs going up, the following planes would also have to be raised:
A-4E (Early), Ayit, Hunter F.58, Yak-130, A-4E Early (M), and A-4E.
Guys i have a better idea
US
LAV-AD
UK
Stormer AD
Israel
Machbet
10.0 → Remove entirely for everyone
Me poopoo me die
Don’t even get me started on the A-4E
leopard 2 a6 and leopard 2 pso should be at the same br as leopard 2 a5
tunguska to 10.0
no irccm
I wonder how long before your comment gets flagged and taken down, seems to be a consistent thing to happen to posts that call him out.
China
CS/SA-5
14.0
FB-10A has 18km range
doodoo dada
China
CS/SA-5
28.3
It has Radar
All Nations
??.?BR → Get rid of SPAA
CAS players lack the skill to avoid getting shot down
Vehicle: Su-30SM2
Mode: Air-RB
Suggestion: Move from 14.7 to 15.0
Explanation: It is time we have top tier decompression again and we can start this by moving the Su-30SM2 and Rafale up where it belongs. The Su-30SM2 is quite literally the best plane in the game and it offers tremendous advantages to anyone below it at 14.3 down to 13.7.
Adats → 15.0 it gives no radar warning
Germany
Gepard 1A2
Ground Realistic
9.7 → 10.7
Long range IRCCM missiles, with the added bonus of 35mm Oerlikons which shred planes and tanks alike. Also worth noting its better at resisting strafing than most other early SAMs. IRCCM does not belong facing flareless post-war jets.
(note)
In accordance with early SAMs going up, the following planes would also have to be raised:
A-4E (Early), Ayit, Hunter F.58, Yak-130, A-4E Early (M), and A-4E.
These are my final thoughts on the British Phantoms.
Both the FGR.2 and the F-4J(UK) should receive AIM-9Ls and Skyflash SuperTEMPs while remaining at 12.0 because both aircraft are underperforming in the current meta.
I don’t see a compelling balance reason to give these upgrades to only one of them. WarThunder already has plenty of examples of multiple variants sharing the same missile loadout, so treating these two aircraft similarly wouldn’t be unprecedented.
Even with the same missiles, the F-4J(UK) would not outperform the FGR.2. The FGR.2 would still retain its key advantages, including more powerful engines and a larger countermeasure load, giving it better overall performance and survivability.
The proposed changes aren’t intended to create two overpowered Phantoms because they’re meant to make two outdated aircraft more competitive. The F-4J(UK) would remain the weaker of the pair, while the FGR.2 would continue to be the superior aircraft. The only meaningful difference is that both would finally have missile loadouts that are more appropriate for the current state of the game.
For those reasons, I don’t believe there’s a balance justification for increasing either aircraft’s battle rating to 12.3. These changes would improve their effectiveness and make them more enjoyable to play without fundamentally changing their place in the game’s balance.
𝐂𝐨𝐦𝐩𝐚𝐫𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐧 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐓𝐨𝐫𝐧𝐚𝐝𝐨 𝐅.𝟑
The British Tornado F.3 occupies the same Battle Rating while benefiting from:
The Tornado is a much newer interceptor with clear technological advantages.
The goal is simply to ensure the F-4J(UK) And FGR.2 receives the weapon systems that historical evidence shows it was capable of carrying and employing. This is a historical accuracy and quality of life improvement, not an attempt to make it compete directly with the Tornado F.3.
𝐒𝐮𝐠𝐠𝐞𝐬𝐭𝐞𝐝 𝐈𝐦𝐩𝐥𝐞𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐭𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧
@Smin1080p_WT please 🙏
Please fix this Gaijin ;-;
eh, couldnt care less honeslty, i regulary dont have forum access,
only got it right now cause i wanted to tell the canadian that the canadian 2a6 for Uk this year is a tad bit giant cope, after they just got 2 abrams and looking at the general addition speed of mbts.
guess i am gonna play a tad bit more next month to get the hori but oh well
Germany
Gepard 1A2
9.7 → 13.0
It has gun and horrible radar with 4km effective missiles, ultimate meta
Vehicle: Rafale (all)
Mode: Air-RB
Suggestion: Move from 14.7 to 15.0
Explanation: It is time we have top tier decompression again and we can start by moving the vehicles that have the highest statistics and efficiencies. The Rafale offers many advantages over other 14.7s and even dominates the 13.7s utterly.
Tbf it and mb elde98 deserves higher br than crotale. With condition that anything else moves up of course. S1 is better than those 2 for example.
I’m just wondering how is 9.3 considered post-WW2
I mean it is but then so is the F-15E
15.0 will be a thing in December, because of their greed.
Funnily enough by then 15.0 might be in need of a raise once again.
The cycle repeats.
