Yeah look, I haven’t actually played the bucc, but I do know that there are a rare few subsonics that can do that too at a lower BR. I’ve gone through it on statshark and also using WTRTI in test flight. All minfuel and clean.
If F-15A can be 12.7 I don’t see why M4K cannot.
French
-bvvd (totally real)
Real
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(M4K radar makes the F1 look op)
Forget about battle ratings focus on new maps most of the maps played in ground rb are at least 10 years old they have been played a million times there is nothing more to do on them, change the environment and more vehicles will become playable.
Premium SU-30s 13.3 ->13.7
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Nope
Yup
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hhaha
Definetly overdue.
LMAO. You’ve never even used the Me 210 v22, so you have no right to make fun of me LOL.
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I am surprised this thread remains open more than three days.
The last two Planned Battle Rating Changes threads (January 2026 and April 2026) were closed 3 days after their initial posts.
Isn’t it time we get an updated table and discuss it in the Round 2 thread?
Shoot the MG with HE it kills it I do it all with the British 75
Vehicle: Bf109G-2 trop (and all sub variants)
Mode: GRB
BR change: 4.3-> 4.3 (remains the same)
Reason:
There is no 4.7 ground lineup for Germany except a very rare event vehicle (pak puma). It does not overperform horrendously at 4.3 and will be nearly unused at 4.7.
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Mode: Ground Realistic Battles
Vehicle: Wiesel 1A4
BR Change: 7.3 → 6.7 / 7.0
Reasoning:
The Wiesel 1A4 is currently over‑tiered at 7.3. While it features thermal imaging and a laser rangefinder, these do not justify its current BR for an SPAA vehicle with only a 20mm DM63 cannon.
Insufficient Firepower & Protection: The 20mm DM63 round cannot effectively penetrate common U.S. and Soviet medium or heavy tanks at 7.3, while the vehicle itself has extremely poor protection – it can even be penetrated by .50 cal fire from the front.
Limited Benefit of Thermal & LRF: The laser rangefinder offers little advantage on a 66mm penetration cannon. Most battles around 7.0 are on small maps where thermal imaging is not essential for target acquisition. As a pure SPAA vehicle, these features contribute far less than they would on an MBT.
Comparison to Similar Vehicles: The SUB-I-II and AMX-10P sit at BR 5.x, while the Wiesel 1A4 is placed at 7.3 – a massive gap for vehicles with comparable combat roles and firepower. Apart from thermal and LRF, it is essentially a more mobile SUB-I-II.
Tactical Gap for Germany: Germany lacks high‑mobility vehicles after 6.3, which prevents its slow heavy tanks from reaching the front line effectively. Lowering the Wiesel 1A4 would fill this tactical gap, providing the team with much‑needed scouting and flanking support.
Alternative Solution: If a BR reduction is not granted, removing the thermal and laser rangefinder and lowering it to 6.x would be a reasonable compromise.
Therefore, the Wiesel 1A4 should be moved down to 6.7 or 7.0 to better reflect its actual combat effectiveness.
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Snail favourite dish and reason premium su30s sit at 13.3.
2 more instead of 2 r73?
Mode: Ground Realistic Battles
Vehicle: Ar 234 C3
BR Change: 7.3 → 7.0
Reasoning:
The Ar 234 C3 should be moved down to 7.0, in line with the recent BR reduction of the IL‑28 from 7.3 to 7.0 in Ground Realistic Battles. Compared to the IL‑28, the Ar 234 C3 carries only three bombs total, with a significantly smaller payload – far less than the IL‑28’s multiple bomb options. This severely limits its ground‑attack efficiency, as it can destroy at most three targets per sortie, whereas the IL‑28 can carry a much heavier and more versatile loadout. Additionally, the IL‑28 is equipped with a defensive tail turret for self‑protection, while the Ar 234 C3 has no defensive armament at all, making it far more vulnerable to enemy fighters and interceptors. Given that the IL‑28 has already been deemed suitable for 7.0, the Ar 234 C3 – with inferior ordnance and no rear defense – certainly does not belong at a higher BR. Therefore, it should be reduced to 7.0 to reflect its actual combat effectiveness in the CAS role.
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