Fair. No stats are perfect, data is never truly complete.
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8.3 is excessive for the L-39, I agree, but I think 8.0 would be pretty fair. We need a larger course correction than 7.7, especially since something that might otherwise be able to maybe counter it at 7.7 (PGZ88) is moving up at the same time. I could also see 7.7 being enough because pushing it out of the 7.3 lineup may have a bigger impact than I’m anticipating. Compression just makes things difficult in this scenario.
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JA37DI, JA37DI F21, F-4F KWS LV: 13.0 → 13.3 (Air RB)
Really, you guys uptiered F-14A IRIAF thrice now but can’t do AMRAAM Viggens and Phantoms? Yes one of them is a fast boat and both having mediocre radar yet still able to sling 4 AMRAAMs, JA37DI’s are practically has the same armament loadout of F-16A ADF as in 4 AMRAAM and 2 AIM-9L. Meanwhile the Kfir C.10 got uptiered to 13.3 just because it can carry 4 Derbys and didn’t have option to carry extra IR missile. And before you say “well Viggen doesn’t have IRCCM Sidewinder”, so does F-16A ADF.
F/A-18C (Early), CF-188, F/A-18C (Germany): 12.7 → 13.0 (+ AIM-9M) (Air RB)
I had enough of those AIM-7P Hornets ruining 11.7 uptiers, they’re essentially mini Su-27 but without IRCCM, meanwhile the true competitor on the same BR with close capability such as MiG-29 9.12 only carries 2 SARH+IOG+DL missiles (compounded with the worse radar) and Yak-141 with 4.
Su-30MKK, Su-30MK2 AMV (Venezuela): 13.3 → 13.7 (Air RB)
Come on, 13.7 BR is now eligible for premiums, event and squad vehicles, just because it has worse engine than Su-27SM and still have similar capability doesn’t mean it should stay there forever. Everyone has urged for it to be getting a raise in BR.
It doesnt get 9Ms.
Nor does it get the F-16s digital RWR or FM.
If the Viggen DI is 13.3 worthy, then the F-16A ADF needs to go up to 13.7
The F-4F ICE and Tornado F3 Late should probably be 13.3 compared to what else is at 13.0, but compression. No where near the equal of the Su-30s. So until they move up, they are stuck. (also the F3 Late needs buffs)
But Viggen, AV-8B+, FA2, J-8F, etc etc are all exactly what should be at 13.0 at the moment relatively speaking.
It also has an AESA radar, which is a notable buff to any ARH missile. Whilst its other limitations are certainly something to consider here, there was a reason for it to move up. Especially if you directly compared the Kfir C10 to something like the FA2
British RB Ground BR’s:
- A33: 4.0 up to 4.3. “Excelsior” saw a massive jump in performance with APHE and needs to go up. Completely agree there. Also, the mantlet needs to be fixed. It should be the same 3.5" as the Crusader, Cromwell, and Churchill. I honestly expect this to eventually go to 4.7 with the T14, it’s just a shame it’s impossible to get.
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British RB Ground BR’s:
- Churchill NA75: 4.3 down to 4.0. It’s more of a side-grade over the Churchill Mk. III, not a direct upgrade. You lose the good rate-of-fire, lose the shoulder stabiliser, and lose a decent amount of penetration for a better damaging shell. That’s the only difference, the shell is good but if the Churchill Mk. III goes down then the NA75 should as well. You still haven’t fixed the secondary MG either.
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yes，and it is not first time they change the br because some pro player play the vehcle , italian saber is the example , and now i think t20 is the example too
F-14A Early and the F-14A IRIAF have the same radar performance. BR 13.7(RB)? Are you serious?
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I’d be fine with 16.0 right now, but I know gaijin wouldn’t want to jump that far up in one go, So 15.7 would be completely fine too.
15.7 would at least give a little breathing room. and thats IF they actually took the time to shuffle some of the jets below 13.7 around, because last time they added room i don’t think they changed anything below 13.0
Gaijin cannot just add 15.7 or 16.0 and only move things above 13.0 around, they need to shuffle the entire battle ratings around, this would mean jets like the Mig9 going up to 8.0, Su11 to 8.0, mig15bis to 9.3 F86F2 to 9.3 etc etc etc, not just chaning one or two jets here and there. The entire thing needs to be moved around to make room.
Every change would need to be looked at to check what it’s affecting and if it’s a silly change, They cannot just be like oh look the hunter F6 does quite well because it has semi decent missiles that get easy kills (IN DOWNTIERS) lets change that to 10.0 problem solved, it doesn’t change a thing.
If you’re playing 8.7 it might seem like a really good thing to see it go to 10.0 right? but would it really matter? You’d still be facing the T2 late, the T2 early, the F-6C, the J35a, and countless mig21’s. it literally doesn’t change a thing other than now the hunter f6 gets stomped as soon as it gets to see 11.0
Imagine playing the hunter f6 and facing mig21bis. It’s hilarious that it’s even considered.
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British RB Ground BR’s:
- Churchill VII & Crocodile: 4.7 up to 5.0. It’s sad to say, but I agree with this, M61 was a massive jump in performance. Even though the penetration is only like 2mm better APHE means you can now cupola snipe and even previously “bad shots” will kill the enemy. The biggest issue is the Churchill VII no longer having a line up, now players will be forced to drag up their 4.7 line up or drag the Churchill to 5.3.
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I dont.
British RB Ground BR’s:
- Comet: 5.3 down to 5.0. It’s really a shadow of its former self. The A30 Challenger is a better vehicle in almost everyway. Just compare the Comet to the VK 3002 (M). This would also give the Churchill VII a line up.
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British RB Ground BR’s:
- AC IV: 5.3 down to 5.0. It’s just a slightly better Firefly. Again, just compare it to the VK 3002 (M). This would also give the Churchill VII a line up.
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British RB Ground BR’s:
- Skink: 5.3 down to 5.0. Just like the Crusader AA Mk. II really don’t understand why it keeps going up. Again, just compare it to the Wirbelwind, you still have less firepower and penetration but now have the double the guns of the Crusader AA Mk. II, and the same amount of guns as the Whirbelwind. Is that really worth a BR increase of 1.3 currently (4.0 to 5.3)? This would give the Churchill VII a line up.
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Skink is practically immune to all CAS strafing aside from bombs though, I’d keep it at 5.3.
Every Rank 6 and 7 Helicopters: Rework their Arcade BR to match ground vehicle AB 12.7
Why did every heli’s in arcade BR Rating ends at 11.0 but for ground vehicles did extended to 12.7??? Was it because you guys don’t want to introduce new BR bracket for Heli PvE or what? Those FnF helicopters are super overkill for the opponents they’re having on Heli PvE for grinding purposes after unlocking IR JAGM and CM-502KG, often being a pathetic vulture robbing every single ground AI spawn and didn’t left behind for everyone else.
Cool, stats don’t lie. Clearly 42.3% on the best vehicle is doing “fine”. Gaijin balance off winrates.
British RB Ground BR’s:
- Tortoise: 6.7 down to 6.3. Just compare it to the T28, very similar vehicles except the Tortoise is covered in weakspots, lacks APHE, and just as slow. Fix the armour, add the missing APDS, and the other minor reports missing engine wall and armoured bins. If all of these are done it won’t need to go down.
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It’s not just player performance that is being taken into account though. The vehicle’s own performance sets the bottom line.
Tort is rather iffy but I suppose 6.3 wouldn’t really make it any more useful so I suppose it’s fine.