We need major decompression, I say this all the time but we should at minimum be at 15.7 instead of a whole BR lower
Yes. I believe major decompression is a huge necessity at this point. These changes are a bad idea until that happens IMO.
USSR
Yak-15P
Air Realistic
6.3 → 5.7
Famously one of the worst planes in the game. It has a jet, but its rip speed is the same as normal Yak-3 so it can’t actually go that fast. Its gun only gets 60 rounds of ammunition so you can’t risk long range shots, and one target who’s good at dodging can easily drain a third of its ammo load on their own.
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Just for now, make suggestions for which aircraft should be 15.0
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I think i just accidently deleted my reply.
but still.
xxxx plane cannot go up because the planes above are too powerful
xxxx plane can also not go down or stay the same br because it’s facing aircraft that cannot counter it.
Either one of these is applicable to nearly every aircraft above 6.0 right now.
Fair enough, the thing about looking at statistics is that it completely ignores all the nuances that can be experienced in battles, stats alone don’t cut it, which is why we have many cases of poor decisions ingame. the Japanese props, notably Zeroes, constantly go up in BR just because people (mostly newbies) tend to engage in turn fights with them and that boosts their stats, but doesn’t mean their performance is adequate for the BRs they get upped to
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British RB Ground BR’s:
- A1E1 Independent: 1.3 down to 1.0. Terrible armour for a heavy tank, worse than many nations light tanks even at 1.0. Terrible mobility. Massive target. 3-Pdr gun isn’t a redeeming factor either, it’s not the worst gun in the game, but due to all the other factors combined it’s made much worse. Please also fix the Soviet level gun depression.
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Vehicle: Ozelot
Gamemode: Ground Realistic
BR Change: 9.7 → 9.3
Reasoning: As it stands, the vehicles most similar to the Ozelot in role are the Type 93, Imp Chaparral, and SANTAL, that being a AA armed with only short range IR missiles. These vehicles, though practically identical, all sit at 9.3 (9.0 for the American version of the Chaparral). Along with this, the Ozelot shares its BR with the Gepard 1A2, which carries the same missiles, but also cannons, allowing it to engage air targets at a very close range and also ground targets. Overall, the Gepard 1A2 is a direct upgrade over the Ozelot, yet it shares the same BR.
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British RB Ground BR’s:
- SARC IVa: 1.3 down to 1.0. It’s fast, and that’s kinda it. If you compare it to the Daimler it shares a BR with, it loses in almost every respect. Worse armour, no shoulder stabiliser, gun is incredibly bouncy and kicks like a mule after firing, worse gun elevation and depression angles, and it’s open-topped.
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I agree.
I think maybe 7.7 seems more fair when compared to the SAAB-105. Maybe 8.0 if we put less weight on enemy air being a thing, but past that there’s even just objectively better CAS already so I don’t think this is fair unless we move everything else up with it (which I wouldn’t mind honestly, we could use some more decompression).
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British RB Ground BR’s:
- Valentine I: 2.7 down to 2.3. I don’t see why this went up. It’s clearly worse than the Matilda in nearly every way. I would drop this back down to 2.3 and reclassify it as a Heavy Tank.
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British RB Ground BR’s:
- Valentine XI: 2.7 up to 3.0. I agree with this one, M61 APHE was a decent jump in performance and I think it’s time to move this variant up. I would also reclassify this as a Heavy Tank.
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Basically all the current 14.7s because they also have no business seeing most of the 13.7s, they’re outmatched
Yeah. We need a BR ceiling of 16.0 MINIMUM. Ideally we’d have something like 20.0.
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British RB Ground BR’s:
- Valentine IX: No change in BR. Just reclassify it as a Heavy Tank and finally implement my 6-Pdr bug report. It should have the 6-Pdr Mk V.
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British RB Ground BR’s:
- Crusader AA Mk I: No change in BR. Just fix the M81A1 ammo, it should be APBC.
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Remember when they tested modern vehicles years ago and the BRs were like 14.0?
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British RB Ground BR’s:
- Churchill Mk. I: 3.3 down to 3.0. The 2-Pdr is horrendous at this point, mainly due to the lack of mobility to flank. Even taking it in downtiers it struggles to penetrate Pz. IV F2’s with add-on track armour, Pz. III M’s, M4A3 105’s, etc. This would be a side-grade to the 3" Gun Carrier, the Gun Carrier has very similar armour but has a better gun in a casemate.
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HQ11 is by far a much worse platform than other comparable top tier ARH launchers, objectively. I’d say it should go to 12.3 at least.
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