Vehicle: Hunter F6 (France)
Gamemode: Air Simulator
BR Change: 9.0 —> 9.3
Reason: Currently at 9.0 is the Hunter F1 in the British TT which has both a weaker engine and an inferior wing design. It is inferior to the Hunter F6 in every respect. In addition to this the Hunter F6 has 2x Aim-9Bs where the F1 has none. The F6 also has drop tanks, and can use these to dump most of its weight when entering a fight. In the Swedish TT is a Hunter F4 with 2x Aim-9B called the J34, which is currently located at 9.3 within ASB. The Hunter F6 needs a BR increase to 9.3 at the bare minimum to match the BR of the J34. The J34 then likely needs a BR reduction to 9.0
6 Likes
Vehicle: J34
Gamemode: Air Simulator
BR Change: 9.3 ----> 9.0
Reason: The J34 is a Hunter F4 with 2x Aim-9Bs but this just means it has a larger internal fuel storage than the Hunter F1 and gains no meaningful flight performance improvement over the Hunter f1, whilst the 9Bs are incredibly valuable to have, they don’t warrant a BR increase at this time and if needs be, the Hunter F1 can simply go down to 8.7 where it likely needs to be anyway.
2 Likes
Vehicle : Mirage 2000D-RMV
Mode : Air RB
Change : 12.7 → 12.3
logical step down from the M2KCs5 and is weaker than the M2KCs4 but still 12.7 is completely overtiered.
Other ways to make this plane viable:
Leave it at 12.7 but give it 2 more Magic 2
Bump it to 14.0/14.3 and give it its ahistorical loadout of Mica EM like it had on the dev server
20 Likes
Vehicle: Mig-23MLA, ML & MLD
Gamemode: Air Simulator
BR Change: 11.3 —> 11.7
Reason: This BR is heavily compressed currently and there is no reason for these aircraft to be 11.3 instead of 11.7, within their brackets, nothing would change in terms of balance, but there would be many 11.3 aircraft that would have room to breathe.
10 Likes
Vehicle: Phantom FGR2 & FG1
Gamemode: Air Simulator
BR Change: 11.3 —> 11.7
Reason: These are direct competitors to the Mig-23s, if they were to move up to 11.7, then should these 2 Phantoms. This would give much needed breathing room for other aircraft currently at 11.3 that are substantially weaker than the Phantoms.
3 Likes
Vehicle: F-84F (US, Germany, Israel, Italy and France)
Gamemode: Air Realistic
Change: Unify airspawn
Reason: At the moment, only the US F-84F gets airspawn, despite being identical to the versions found in the other trees, due to being Rank 6 not Rank 5, do not get airspawn. This is extremely unfair and should be rectified, whether they should all gain it or all lose it, I don’t know, but a poll is the best solution. So please vote below
- Add Air-spawn to all F-84Fs
- Remove Air-spawn from the US F-84F
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5 Likes
Removal of vehicles is discraceful
2 Likes
Ground RB
Stormer AD
10.0 → 9.7
It does not provide any upgrade over the Gepard 1A2 also at 9.7
28 Likes
The F9F-2’s BR should be lowered to 7.7.
While the F9F-5, which is also at 8.0, has an engine thrust of 2,730 kgf, the F9F-2 only produces 2,260 kgf, which is significantly lower.
The BRs should be differentiated, just like the MiG-15 and MiG-15bis.
3 Likes
Vehicle: Bo 105 PAH-1
Mode: RB
Change: 9.3 → 9.0
Reason: unlike the PAH-1A1 which is also 9.3 the PAH-1 gets only HOT-1s which are qorse than HOT-2, also with 9.0 it could close a gap as Germany 9.0 has currently No Helis unless you Uptier 8.7 Helis
3 Likes
Vehicle: AMX A-1A
Gamemode: Air Realistic & Air Sim
BR Change: 11.0 ----> 10.7
Reason: The AMX A-1A is identical in nearly every single respect to the tech-tree version the AMX, except it has the MAA-1 Piranha Air-to-air missiles. These are notably different to the Aim-9Ls that the standard AMX carries but comparable in overall performance and I don*t believe to justify any reason for the AMX A-1A to be any higher at this time.
All Ground Attack aircraft are underperforming notably with Air Realistic at the moment, especially sub-sonic airframes that routinely encounter super-sonic ground attack aircraft. Such a higher BR guarantees that they will encounter aircraft such as the F-4S which routinely clear any and all bases long before the AMX can arrive.
The only gamemode that the AMX A-1A performs “well” in is Air Simulator, but even within this gamemode it is notably underpowered and would be better suited at 10.7 alongside similar airframes such as the AMX and Buccaneer S2B. Whilst the MAA-1’s are little stronger with Air Sim due to their short burn time, making them harder to see, the lack of radar limits the AMX A-1A’s ability to ID targets at longer ranges.
The AMX and AMX A-1A are not strong dogfighters, with aircraft like the Sea Harrier FRS1e at 10.7 much more capable under most conditions and its hard to justify even 10.7 for the airframes if not for the on-going compression
With the introduction of the Hawk 200, located at 10.7 with 4x Aim-9Ls, the overall justification for 11.0 has only become much weaker
21 Likes
Zeros at 6.0 is genuinely insane.
Maybe there should just be a pop up message when launching the game for american pilots telling them not to turn with zeros instead…
41 Likes
Vehicle: Phantom FG1
Gamemode: Air Realistic
BR Change: 12.0 ----> 11.7
Reason: It has one of the worst A2A weapon loadouts at that BR and is being carried by the fact it has decent engines and slightly more CMs than most. But vs equivalent F4s like the F4S, it stands no chance, let alone aircraft on its own tree like the Tornado F3 that is universally better in almost all respects at the same BR.
14 Likes
AIR REALISTIC
R2Y2 V1 8.0 → 7.3
Poor speed, acceleration, speed, and roll rate. It is simply no match for MiG-15s and F-86As. The only redeeming factor is the excessive firepower, but that is not worth much when everything can stay well away from your guns.
39 Likes
Vehicle: Phantom FGR2
Gamemode: Air Realistic and Air Simulator
BR Change: ARB: No change, ASB: 11.3 ----> 12.0
Loadout Change: Add Aim-9L and/or Skyflash SuperTEMP
Reason: Unlike the Phantom FG1, the FGR2 actually used Aim-9L when it was in service with the RAF, this would give the FGR2 the performance it needs to operate at 12.0 alongside airframes such as the Tornado F3 and JAS37D . This change also helps differentiate between the FGR2 and FG1 which are currently Identical and gives a reason to own both airframes.
19 Likes
Vehicle: Mirage 2000D-RMV
Gamemode: Ground Realistic
BR Change: 12.7 → 12.7
Reasoning: The Mirage 2000D has equivalent ground strike capability to many other 12.7 jets like the Su-27SM/F-16C/J-10A and lacks the awareness, flight performance, and self-defense options(fox 3, internal gun) to be viable at 13.0.
7 Likes
Vehicle: Phantom F-4J(UK)
Gamemode: Air Realistic and Air Simulator
BR Change: ARB: 12.0 ----> 11.7 ASB: 12.0 —>11.3 (or 11.7 with 11.3 decompression)
Reason: It is an identical airframe to the F-4J(US), however does not get HMD nor does it get any other possible advantages such as the Agile eagle. It also has a considerably weaker missile with the Skyflash DF (Aim-7E-2 equivalent) It is one of the weakest 12.0 aircraft in RB at the moment and doesn’t belong at 12.0. It doesn’t even get Napalm, which makes it a significantly weaker base bomber than the other F-4s
In Sim, its equivalent TT aircraft are currently at 11.3 and there is no justification for it to be at 12.0 given it is weaker than both with less CMs and weaker engine
20 Likes
AIR REALISTIC
R2Y2 V2 8.0 → 7.3
Poor speed, acceleration, speed, and roll rate. It is simply no match for MiG-15s and F-86As. The only redeeming factor is the excessive firepower, but that is not worth much when everything can stay well away from your guns.
33 Likes
Ground RB - AMX-13 (FL11) : 4.3 > 4.0
This tank is not better than the M24 that you can find in most tech tree, or the AMX-13-M24, and both are 4.0. The AMX-13 (FL11) should drop to 4.0. The gun is too weak for 4.3, you can’t penetrate frontally most of the tank you encounter, forcing you to flank, but here come the second problem, the gun is very wobbly,making flanking harder since you have to wait and lose precious second to wait for your gun to stablise, which make your speed advantage pretty useless, while M24 does have a gun stabilizer. The M24 also do have a roof M2HB machine gun that can treat light target and plane, while the AMX-13 (FL11) doesn’t. The only advantage of the AMX-13 (FL11) is it’s lower profile, but that alone should not make it worth being a 4.3 tank.
32 Likes
Why are you moving Bf109G-2 to 4.7 in ground RB, which has no lineup for Germany?
Slight overperformance is preferable to non-utilisation through lack of an available line-up.
2 Likes