The III/IV would be ok at 3.7 if they just fixed this one issue. It has the incorrect engine, giving it way better mobility than other equal BR shermans.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/0mCfhx6QXzhz
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Player statistics in this case, so yes, this is why I fundamentally disagree with the entire April 2026 changes spreadsheet for the Japanese and Italian props.
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Add mk310 shells for all 30mm bushmaster carriers that have auto tracker
Same 'tarded changes as per usual. Keep moving up turnfighters cause american players are braindead and only turnfight everything. Not a single USAF prop went up
1 step forward, 2 backwards again.
Mk24 again at 7.0??? How stupid
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its fast and can notch quite easily all you really need it isnt that bad in a dogfight either against the heavier enemies like the su33
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British Phantom is in a worse situation it is on 12.0 and it got only basic Aim 7E NOT DOGFIGHT, or the Japanese F-4EJ Kai which is in 12.3 while yes it got Aim 7F and Aim 9L missile it usually fights Su-30/Su-33 and all these Fox 3 armed machinery
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And besides you can just easily outrun a A6M with rank II plane (unless it is a Rank II bomber) and now A6M5 is 5.7, and B-29 and every other thing can just evade it. Players get high statistic with A6M5 because the others try to dogfight A6M5 and not boomzoom it
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Skink
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Arcade Battle BR: 5.7 → 5.0
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Realistic Battle BR: 5.3 → 4.7
Rationale:
The Skink is very overtiered when compared to the Wirbelwind. Its firepower is overall worse due to the lower RoF, worse ballistics, and inferior ammunition. It does get a bit better p/w, but the only factor actually setting it above the Wirbelwind is that it’s fully armored. While this is a valuable asset to an SPAA, it’s not enough to warrant shooting the Skink all the way up to its current BR relative to the Wirbelwind, especially considering there are many CAS at its current BR packing heavier guns that can threaten its armor still.
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Which again kinda goes back to my gripes over how I need to split my posts up since the chaffee (easily one of my most favorite tanks in the game) is something I’ve suggested in this thread to move up to 4.0 too. Also, while the turret weakspot may be easy to hit if you know to go for it, it’s not a very intuitive one for newer players. Skill issue perhaps, but IMO still something to account for.
In a vacuum, I wouldn’t be too eager to throw it straight into 4.0, but if we’re decompressing that BR, it’s still one of my first picks for it. The Sherman hull armor falls off in effectiveness pretty quick, so it’s a delicate thing to balance.
If we uptier every vehicle because of new players a lot more vehicles need to go up. I don’t think that should be a reason. This is the same reason the Zeros keep going up is because players refuse to learn and adapt with their fighters. In this case I think your logic hurts your argument on this front.
(Also Sherman 105 much lmao that’s even more oppressive than the III/IV, it fights 2.0 tanks lol)
I’m willing to accept that it has the obvious weakspot removed from the hull but the knowledge that an equally (actually bigger size wise) weakspot sits right on the turret makes the whole oh but the new players argument kinda moot personally, again it’s more inline with others if the engine is corrected but again are we going to move a vehicle for a bit more horsepower? I’d say if it had a 50 cal I’d have no problem with it going up but as it stands it’s got a massive weakspot that makes up for the hull MG being removed.
This is equivalent to also saying the Churchill needs to go up because I keep shooting the hull and turret face rather than the roof. It’s kind of a moot point but I get your stance.
100%. It was 4.7 when it was first added and it was absolutely fine at that br.
Yes! This thing being only 0.3 above the Harrier II is insane
And you can easily evade a Zero, if you see a Zero you just turn around and you’re fine because Zero engine is just weak even for 4.0’s BR
Pantsir is also SACLOS
AMX-13-M24
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Arcade Battle BR: 3.7 → 4.0
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Realistic Battle BR: 3.7 → 4.0
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Reload Speed: 6.5 s → 5.5 s
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Add M48 Super Charged (HE) (Bug Report)
Rationale:
The M24 Chaffee is already a very strong vehicle in the right hands, and the same applies to the AMX-13-M24. It does make some trade-offs compared to the regular Chaffee, but they are all pretty fair, so it’s no less effective overall, and should therefore get similar treatment to the M24 if that is to go up.
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You can easily shoot the roof MG with an 75mm HE round and over pressure it. The side and Back armor is just 20mm, Cal. .50 will go through it like butter. The Horizontal traverse is tiny. Overall if you have major problems with this and the Jagdpanzer IV, which also has ok mobility and weak side armor and lower front.
Then thats just Skill issue. Good vehicles, but highly situational and both with weakpoints that arent Sherman hull MG level hard to hit. LFP and they are immobile or even already destroyed, and you can easily drive outside their traverse.
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the P-51 has a higher skill floor. but its much faster, has more consistent damage output (.50 cal API-T is overperforming by a lot) and it gets infinite ethanol injection now.
other than yak3-u, which should also go up.
theres not much you can do against literally anything if its only 1km away and above.
It cant get killed by 20 mm Hispanos cause of its turret armor on top. Unlike any other SPAA between 1.0-7.7.
Yes but new players will always be a major factor, again I don’t like this type of balance because if it applies to one vehicle it should apply to all but that’s not how it works and it’s not fair when the vehicle in question isn’t good it’s just players refuse to adapt.
AMX-13 (FL11)
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Realistic Battle BR: 4.3 → 4.0
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Reload Speed: 6.0 s → 5.0 s (Bug Report)
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Add M48 Super Charged (HE) (Bug Report)
Rationale:
The AMX-13 (FL-11) is essentially an M24 Chaffee that has no stabilizer, no .50 cal, a smaller crew, and worse reverse speed in exchange for better acceleration, a bit more top speed, and slightly faster reload. It’s at best a sidegrade, and as such, doesn’t deserve to be at such a high BR relative to the M24.
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