(Repost because I accidentally deleted the original post)
Vehicle: G.55S, G.55 Serie 1
Gamemode: Air RB
BR: 5.3 → 5.0
Reason: At 5.0, where these planes are currently located, their flight performance is already somewhat below average. In fact, they have slightly worse performance than the 4.3 G.55 sottoserie 0, which at its current BR isn’t exactly OP. Yak-3P, a 5.0 fighter with 3 20 mm cannons (comparable armament to upgunned G.55 models), is better than those planes in top speed, climb and turn rate at ARB-relevant altitudes. Furthermore, being moved to 5.3 would allow G.55 to face planes such as P-51H, which enjoys an advantage in top speed of 150 and 130 kph at sea level and 5000 meters respectively, as well as 40% (!) higher power-to-weight ratio and almost 2 deg/s better sustained turn rate. Such a matchup would be hilariously one-sided, so I propose refraining from increasing G.55’s BR.
It only lasts that short of an amount of time if you sit at 100% throttle all the time, and that is not how you are supposed to use rocket planes.
It does it completely stomps in full down tiers
While its a common theme in top tier this one is worse
You are faster than everything else good gun and 4 missiles
So there is noting 8.3 can do besides waiting for mistakes
Ima be honest, ALL the Mach 2 capable fighters (F-104, F-106, Mig-21) should move up to 9.7 minimum. Trying to fight them with 8.3 aircraft is pointless.
Ok if comparing it to the best prop in the game and its 6.3 BR is the wrong way to go about it…
We are left with global stats. Which means the yak15 and yak17 and bi all have better than the spitfire. So any reason at all you got that justifies it going to 7.0 to fight in the 7.0- 8.0 hole while the yaks are chilling?
I dont even fly it that much but its one of the only props I jump back in here and there. Not anymore. Another easy to see pattern of fun detected vs minor nations to protect the cash cows is where the logic goes
Looking at the mk 22s terrible stats then it should be going to 6.3… it wont. Cant remember any GB vics going down in the year iv played. Plenty of nerfs though OFC
Taking it up 0.3 BR’s but not fixing any of the core issues
I was aware you guys were ignoring it but damn
Where in the OP does it say that? I know an older thread like this that I replied to had that rule, but I do not see it listed now.
Wtf, why are the zeros nerfed, they suck balls
F104a only has two aim9b so less than some 8.3
Also no rwr and flares would completely kill it in an uptier given it would also lose its only advantage which is speed
Mode: Air Simulator
Aircraft: Mirage 2000C-S4
Change: 12.3->12.0
Reasoning: The generally low missile count of 2 Radar missiles and 2 IR guided ones combined with the 16 Flares and 18 Chaff make this plane extremely difficult to play as at 12.3 you only see uptiers to at least 12.7 and when going up against ARH slingers (F-14A, F-14A IRIAF) the dumping of chaff to fool the missiles is impossible as you would run out of chaff before leaving the square of the Airfield. At 12.0 the plane would still face the Tomcats in certain brackets but they are not included in the “best case scenario” brackets.
When I say 1980s, I don’t just mean date of production. I mean a vehicle made with 1980s technology, to 1980s standards. This should be obvious to anyone with any meaningful understanding of human communication.
1980s IRCCM SAMs produce by global powers have absolutely 0 business facing WW2 and Korean war planes.
No, not even in the slightest. F-104s are just slightly annoying misquitos now.
Absolute shit turn
meh, it’s alright. Even if it was the best gun, that wouldn’t make much of a difference.
Four 9Bs, exact same as some 8.3s.
That’s how all A2A combat works. Whoever messes up first loses
Aircraft: Bf-109 F-1 and F-2
Mode: Air RB
BR: F-1 2.7 → 3.0
F-2 3.0 → 3.3
Reason:
the airframe and engine are way to strong for its br
Yak3U slowly walks backwards and hides in the shadows…
Well there isn’t much you can do wen something is trowing missile while going above your rip speed
Oh, they move Lf Mk IX, but 3U remains?
Now that;'s HILARIOUS.
Also what makes Serie 0 better than Lf Mk IX?
NOTHING.
Mode: Air Simulator
Aircraft: Mig-29A
Change: 12.7->12.3
Reasoning: The Long Scan cycles of the Radar combined with its atrocious RWR and a crippling lack of ARH missiles make this plane completely useless in the current BR brackets as it has to go up against ARH slingers with the F-16 spam coming in addition. You can only beat a dead horse so much before it gets pointless. The F-15 which has much better radar and a working rwr gets to be at 12.7 in sim. No one in a sane condition of mind can tell me that the Mig-29 with 4 R-60 and 2 R-27ER is the same capability as a F-15 with 4 Aim-9M and 4 AIM-7M.
At 12.3 the Mig can also be a counter to the Fakour Spam that is the Wall of missiles being sent directly to any aircraft taking off.
That really doesn’t matter when it can easily dictate the engagement in a full down tier. Its under BR’d simply because the entire JET BR structure from 8.7 is ass cancer and full of compression.
As it stands right now, I have lost several games while grinding out 8.3 because an F-104/Mig-21/F-106 was able to dictate the engagement at their terms. You cannot catch them, you have to shoot them in a head-on where they have the advantage and you better hope they’re a bad aim when they boom and zoom you into infinity. I won one game where when an F-104 just did boom and zoom and we weren’t able to catch him but we had the ticket advantage.
Its not fun to play against, its not engaging and with jets that can barely break 900km/h its not even a joke.
Mode: Air Simulator
Aircraft: Su-27
Change: 13.3->13.0
Reasoning: The Long Scan cycles of the Radar combined with its atrocious RWR and a crippling lack of ARH missiles make this plane completely useless in the current BR brackets as it has to go up against Eurofighters, Rafales and other ARH slingers constantly already, with the F-16 spam coming in addition. You can only beat a dead horse so much before it gets pointless. The F-15 which has much better radar and a working rwr gets to be at 12.7 in sim. No one in a sane condition of mind can tell me that the Mig-29 with 4 R-60 and 2 R-27ER is the same capability as a F-15 with 4 Aim-9M and 4 AIM-7M.
At 13.0 the Su-27 can also be a counter to the Fakour Spam that is the Wall of missiles being sent directly to any aircraft taking off.
In addition to this the Su-30Mk2 AMV is 13.3 in sim WITH ARH missiles, so what the f is the point in the BASELINE Su-27 to be at the same BR?
Let me say this again. The ONLY thing that matters for balance is how it performs. Not the date it went into service. Not the date its technology was from. Not the date its production standards are from. Only the performance. The stinger (and other manpads missiles) might be semi modern, but the perform basically like an all aspect aim9b, so they go at a BR that reflects that. They are trivially easy to dodge even with the slowest of jets, so they get a BR that reflects how easy it is to counter. And thats where it sits right now. The stiger is not overpowered.
You can shoot em. You can also just wait for it to run outta fuel and AF strafe it.
F-104 is the most extreme example of being super annoying, whilst being absolute trash.