Yak3U slowly walks backwards and hides in the shadows…
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Well there isn’t much you can do wen something is trowing missile while going above your rip speed
Oh, they move Lf Mk IX, but 3U remains?
Now that;'s HILARIOUS.
Also what makes Serie 0 better than Lf Mk IX?
NOTHING.
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Mode: Air Simulator
Aircraft: Mig-29A
Change: 12.7->12.3
Reasoning: The Long Scan cycles of the Radar combined with its atrocious RWR and a crippling lack of ARH missiles make this plane completely useless in the current BR brackets as it has to go up against ARH slingers with the F-16 spam coming in addition. You can only beat a dead horse so much before it gets pointless. The F-15 which has much better radar and a working rwr gets to be at 12.7 in sim. No one in a sane condition of mind can tell me that the Mig-29 with 4 R-60 and 2 R-27ER is the same capability as a F-15 with 4 Aim-9M and 4 AIM-7M.
At 12.3 the Mig can also be a counter to the Fakour Spam that is the Wall of missiles being sent directly to any aircraft taking off.
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That really doesn’t matter when it can easily dictate the engagement in a full down tier. Its under BR’d simply because the entire JET BR structure from 8.7 is ass cancer and full of compression.
As it stands right now, I have lost several games while grinding out 8.3 because an F-104/Mig-21/F-106 was able to dictate the engagement at their terms. You cannot catch them, you have to shoot them in a head-on where they have the advantage and you better hope they’re a bad aim when they boom and zoom you into infinity. I won one game where when an F-104 just did boom and zoom and we weren’t able to catch him but we had the ticket advantage.
Its not fun to play against, its not engaging and with jets that can barely break 900km/h its not even a joke.
Mode: Air Simulator
Aircraft: Su-27
Change: 13.3->13.0
Reasoning: The Long Scan cycles of the Radar combined with its atrocious RWR and a crippling lack of ARH missiles make this plane completely useless in the current BR brackets as it has to go up against Eurofighters, Rafales and other ARH slingers constantly already, with the F-16 spam coming in addition. You can only beat a dead horse so much before it gets pointless. The F-15 which has much better radar and a working rwr gets to be at 12.7 in sim. No one in a sane condition of mind can tell me that the Mig-29 with 4 R-60 and 2 R-27ER is the same capability as a F-15 with 4 Aim-9M and 4 AIM-7M.
At 13.0 the Su-27 can also be a counter to the Fakour Spam that is the Wall of missiles being sent directly to any aircraft taking off.
In addition to this the Su-30Mk2 AMV is 13.3 in sim WITH ARH missiles, so what the f is the point in the BASELINE Su-27 to be at the same BR?
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Let me say this again. The ONLY thing that matters for balance is how it performs. Not the date it went into service. Not the date its technology was from. Not the date its production standards are from. Only the performance. The stinger (and other manpads missiles) might be semi modern, but the perform basically like an all aspect aim9b, so they go at a BR that reflects that. They are trivially easy to dodge even with the slowest of jets, so they get a BR that reflects how easy it is to counter. And thats where it sits right now. The stiger is not overpowered.
You can shoot em. You can also just wait for it to run outta fuel and AF strafe it.
F-104 is the most extreme example of being super annoying, whilst being absolute trash.
Vehicle: F-4EJ Kai
Mode: Air RB
BR: 12.3 → 12.0 or give it AAM-3
Reasoning: Compared to F-4EJ normal, you get a F-4EJ with Aim 7F and Aim 9L missiles and a better radar. Yet its issue is that it is always fighting in a uptier it can’t compete against. Phantom is slow for its BR while it gets blasted by either Su-33, Su-30MK2, F-14B, F/A-18, F-15A etc, because these aren’t only faster than the Phantom, but outperform it in everything, in dogfight they can just out turn it. In missile fight it will be just get hit by Fakours, RVV-AEs. While when you try to respond with lets Aim 9L / Aim 7F it will just love the flares.
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especially this. Why on earth the pershing is 6.7…
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please do 12.0!!!
I know but I can a sure you its better to go up against something that has two aim9b than 4
they are going up because thhe yak-3U loses the horizontal turnfight which is totally the yak-3Us only strength , (when I played the A6M5 literally 90% of yaks turned with me)
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Mode: Air Simulator
Aircraft: Mig-29G
Change: 13.0->12.7
Reasoning: The Long Scan cycles of the Radar combined with its atrocious RWR and a crippling lack of ARH missiles make this plane completely useless in the current BR brackets as it has to go up against ARH slingers with the F-16 spam coming in addition. You can only beat a dead horse so much before it gets pointless. The F-15 which has much better radar and a working rwr gets to be at 12.7. No one in a sane condition of mind can tell me that the Mig-29 with 4 R-73 and 2 R-27ER is the same capability as a F-15 with 4 Aim-9M and 4 AIM-7M. You either fly on the deck hoping that the enemy wont find you and yeet a ER at it from below or you die horribly, and with only 60 Flares or chaff it is rather a daunting proposition to go up against people who have 240 flares and chaff or even more
The date it went into service generally reflects the tech it used (unless it was made by a third-world country.)
The 1980s SAMs are built with 1980s tech and to 1980s standards. They should primarily be facing 10.0-10.7 planes.
yea because it has aim7 as it’s best radar missile…
R27ER is a LEAP better than the aim7’s
You just described F15A with AIM7 gameplay when its up against R27ER
That wannabe 2s38 whould like to have a word
Pt76-57
HDN radar and garbage at close range.
I know to control it, but even 100% throttle, the engine is not powerful enough. The 8.3 one can meet jets with afterburners. And have to use MG 151 to fight with cold war cannons
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Pretty much all f104 are but not the C