Are you seriously trying to compare gripen E to F-16 PoBIT? Well lets start then, better FM, 9 A2A Missile, far better radar (due to greater scan area), can use MAWS and Bold pods without sacrificing any missile and it has an IRST.
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They will not be completely useless. IRCCM v.s 10.3s-11.3s is still extremely strong.
I think forum devs should implement separate upvotes for posts with “br suggestion” tag which author can choose before posting (so random comments dont get those). It would even improve process of filtering and finding good suggestions. Better than just going through all comments.
And for quicker upvoting there should be filter “suggestions” for people who want to just vote like swipes in meeting apps.
Ground RB - AMX-13 (FL11) : 4.3 > 3.7
This tank is not better than the M24 that you can find in most tech tree, or the AMX-13-M24, and both are 3.7. The AMX-13 (FL11) should go back to 3.7. The gun is too weak for 4.3, you can’t penetrate frontally most of the tank you encounter, forcing you to flank, but here come the second problem, the gun is very wobbly,making flanking harder since you have to wait and lose precious second to wait for your gun to stablise,which make your speed advantage pretty useless, while M24 does have a gun stabilizer. The M24 also do have a roof M2HB machine gun that can treat light target and plane, while the AMX-13 (FL11) doesn’t. The only advantage of the AMX-13 (FL11) is it’s lower profile, but that alone should notmake it worth being a 4.3 tank.
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if you have cover…if you arent in rhine…and abrams have average mobility to every other toptier tank except the challengers…russian tanks are built to be defensive so have good front armour. any shot to the radiator in an abrams kills your engine any shot center mass your dead or cant even move…russian tanks are better suited for the gameplay this game wants you to play
You know you could use tanks to kill tanks and spaa right? stop complaining if you can’t use the tools given to you
Also fun fact planes are in fact not given to me unless you mean AB battles
Significantlly better armor, comprable firepower, comprable mobility
Pretty sure its weight not pen
Aside from russian autloaders which are around 7s its mostly 6s, with some NATO autloaders being 5 or less
2 positives 1 negative, yeah, its better.
Ground RB - AMX-50 (TO90/930) : 8.0 > 7.7
The AMX-50 (TO90/930) have no business being at 8.0. It’s only using APCBC, has no stab, no armor and average speed. It should go back to 7.7 or maybe should consider giving the tank it’s HEAT-FS shell that would help the tank to be more effective (link below).
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/cISYXF5iguY1
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yes i agree this and the J35XS literally ruin the br range and the MIG-21MF
Turm III
Ground RB
8.3 → 9.0
Other:
Add 105mm DM23
Reasoning:
The Turm III is inarguably too powerful at 8.3, there is a reason it is (or was) the most popular ground vehicle in the game, moving it to 8.7 with just DM13 would lead to it losing an edge as DM13 and DM12 are not that fantastic of a shell (although serviceable), Giving it DM23 will allow it to keep an edge, and keep it a very decent vehicle, while moving it up to a BR where it is less likely to absolutely stomp opposing teams with its dual 105 + 30mm armament
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Ground RB - Char 25 t : 8.0 > 7.7
This light tank only uses APCBC and does not have a stab, and does have a pretty wobbly gun. It should not stay at 8.0 where most of the other light tanks have acces to HEAT-FS, gun stabilizer and high speed, making all of them better than the Char 25 t. It’s only advantage is a fast reload, which is not enough against your opponent, especially in a full uptier. Dropping it’s BR to 7.7 would help it a lot, or considering giving it it’s HEAT-FS shell that would help the tank to be more effective (link below).
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/cISYXF5iguY1
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Air Realistic(no tank battles)
A2D-1
7.0->6.7
The a2d cannot compete with the 7.0 jets. All it has to its name is a good climb rate. The manuverability is very poor and shouldn’t just be called a turboprop fighter.
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Ground RB - E.B.R. (1954) : 7.0 > 6.7
The E.B.R. (1954), even with it’s new shell it received last time, is too weak for 7.0. You struggle to pen most of your opponent even on the side, the gun is too weak for 7.0, especially that it often end up against 8.0. It should go back to 6.7 where, where it struggled already in the past, but that BR could be better now with the new shell. Right now there is no reason to use the the E.B.R. (1954) at 7.0 if you have the AMX-13, that do everything better.
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Yes lets see you shoot down an A-10 that’s spamming AGM-65Ds with your Shilka
Ground RB - AMX-32 : 9.7 > 9.3
There is not a lot of difference between the AMX-32 and the AMX-32 (105) that is at 9.3. The only noticeable difference is the 120 mm gun instead of the 105 mm, a new shell that doesn’t pen much more, and some more horsepower. I don’t think all those make it 9.7 worthy, and it should go back to 9.3.
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It should only go to 10.0 if it loses the AIM-9Ds
Ground RB - M26 (France and US one) : 6.7 > 6.3
For France, the M26 doesnt have good performane, doesn’t barely any line up since the AMX M4 / AMX-13 / AMX-13 (SS.11) and E.B.R. (1954) all went up to 7.0, leaving you with a 6.3 SPAA only. For the US, not only it is also not performing very well, but it is at the same BR than the Super Pershing, that is way better than the M26, which make no sense, it should go back to 6.3.
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funny considering western tanks do better
Ground RB - CA Lorraine : 6.0 > 5.3
Since the mobility nerf happened, both for forward speed and reverse speed, this tank has lost a lot of ambush capabilities. It’s armor is inexistant, only the gun is correct, it is not 6.0 worthy anymore and it’s BR should decrease.
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