And yet you have no proof how many of those deaths are actually from planes and tanks.
I can also say that I have a 8 K/D in the M1A2 because I decide to not count any deaths by CAS.
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YAK-1B 3.0 ->3.7
very good in performance and basically ruins the BR range very strong and mind numbly easy to play with very op armaments
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Why are all the low tier turn fighters nerfed?(re-2005 a6m spitfire etc)
Because American mains don’t know what energy fighting is and have a terrible win rate thanks to their skill issue?
Vehicle: M1A1
Gamemode: Ground Realistic
**BR Change:**11.7 —> 12.0
Reason: The M1A1 has better fire power and mobility than most if not all 11.7 and a few 12.0 MBTs with it easily matching the survivability of more than a few too. There is little reason for it to be 11.3 at this time and could quite comfortably be 12.0 or maybe even higher when directly compared to an MBT such as the Leopard 2A4M which is worse in almost every regard bar thermal gen. Is that enough to justify the lower BR?
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Vehicle: M1A2
Gamemode: Ground Realistic
BR Change: 12.0 —> 12.7
Reason: The M1A2 has access to the M829A2 round which is the second best round at top tier, coupled with the 5 second reload this arguably gives the M1A2 the best fire power at top tier, and yet it is only at 12.0. Coupled with its excellent mobility and perfectly capable survivability, this MBT stands well ahead of anything else at 12.0 currently and could even be considered the equal to several MBTs currently located at 12.7. An increase to 12.3 is the bare minimum required. However, when directly compared to the other M1A2s currently at 12.7, the only difference of significance I can observe is Gen 1 vs Gen 2 Thermals. Whilst this may warrant a 0.3 lower BR, it did not for the Leopard 2A6, which has a Gen 1 thermal compared directly to the 2A7 which has a Gen 3 Thermal at the exact same BR.
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Vehicle: M1A1 HC
Gamemode: Ground Realistic
BR Change: 12.0 —> 12.7
Reason: The M1A1 HC has access to the M829A2 round which is the second best round at top tier, coupled with the 5 second reload this arguably gives the M1A2 the best fire power at top tier, and yet it is only at 12.0. Coupled with its excellent mobility and perfectly capable survivability, this MBT stands well ahead of anything else at 12.0 currently and could even be considered the equal to several MBTs currently located at 12.7. An increase to 12.3 is the bare minimum required. I am unaware of any meaningful differences between the M1A1 HC and the M1A2 SepV1 which is currently a 12.7 MBT. The only difference I can see is the M1A1 HC has APS and a slightly weaker thermal gen. The APS is a minimal advantage, which only really leaves the thermal sight difference. Whilst this could warrant them being at different BRs, this was not enough to justify the Leopard 2A6 and the Leopard 2A7 to be separate BRs and there are greater differences in performance between those MBTs as far as I am aware.
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It’s not THAT better than f-15 radar. 120 countermeasures vs 240 on F-15. Some one said that its to op for 12.7 isnt wrong. F-15 also to op for 12.7. So its just unfair that f2 is still on 13.0
they for some reason didnt go after the YAK 3U
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Vehicle: M1A1 Clickbait
Gamemode: Ground Realistic
**BR Change:**12.0 —> 12.3/12.7
Reason: The M1A1 Clickbait has access to the M829A2 round which is the second best round at top tier, coupled with the 5 second reload this arguably gives the M1A2 the best fire power at top tier, and yet it is only at 12.0. Coupled with its excellent mobility and perfectly capable survivability, this MBT stands well ahead of anything else at 12.0 currently and could even be considered the equal to several MBTs currently located at 12.7. An increase to 12.3 is the bare minimum required. I am unaware of any meaningful differences between the M1A1 HC Clickbait and the M1A2 SepV1 which is currently a 12.7 MBT. The only difference I can see is the M1A1 HC Clickbait has APS and a slightly weaker thermal gen. The APS is a minimal advantage, which only really leaves the thermal sight difference. Whilst this could warrant them being at different BRs, this was not enough to justify the Leopard 2A6 and the Leopard 2A7 to be separate BRs and there are greater differences in performance between those MBTs as far as I am aware.
The complication is that this is a premium, and gaijin have previously stated they will not add max BR premiums to the game but I think it is far more egregious to leave a top tier MBT at 12.0 and simply pretend it’s not an issue. If its BR cannot be increased to 12.7, then at least remove the M829A2 round and replace it with M829A1 so it is limited in terms of shells compared to the other Abrams to warrant the slightly lower BR, but even with this reduced round performance, it is still a 12.3 worthy MBT when directly compared to several other 12.0 MBTs such as the Leopard 2A4M. M829A1 is still one of the better performing shells at top tier.
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Dont remember off the top of my head, but if i go by my all time average kills/spawn, that would be 1.4, which is about the same as your 1.3. As of late now though, i have been seeing more out, around 2 or 3 per game minus the occasional no planes round when my team curbstomps the other so hard they cant spawn cas. Also the tunguska is a radar guided sam, not ir, so no irccm.
Vehicle: Javelin F.(A.W) Mk.9
Gamemode: Air Realistic & Air Sim
BR Change: ARB: 8.3 → 8.0 ASB: 8.7 → 8.0
Reason: The Javelin is easily one of, if not maybe the weakest aircraft at its respective BRs. It is slower than most, turns worse than most and its weapon systems are hard to use. After its recent nerfs in Firebirds update, it has only gotten worse and really needs to be moved down in Battle Rating. In an uptier of any kind, you are a free kill. Especially with the introduction of the Hunter F58 at 9.3, which you are matched against often. Your only hope to do anything in the Javelin is a full downtier, and even then, every match is a struggle. 8.0 May not actually be low enough for this aircraft to be competitive, but it is as low as it can realistically go.
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F4j US doesn’t have agile eagle either
Should the adats move down to 11.3…i feel like is kinda high
Very nice adjustment on bmpt and saab105g, but please check the 11.7 tornado, it is the same plane as 11.3 ones
Antelope
10.0 → 9.7
Honestly this vehicle is not very good, and PGZ04A performs much better than it in every regard save for mobility while being 9.3.
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Changes nothing for Britain, given we only have 11.7s.
The Tunguska isn’t op at all
Vehicle: Harrier GR.3
Gamemode: Ground Realistic
BR Change: 9.7 ----> 9.3
Reason: The Harrier Gr3 is rather lacking in terms of performance when it comes to CAS and Britain has very little in the way of 9.7 line-up for ground. The Harrier Gr3 is weaker than the Buccaneer S2 already at 9.3 for CAS but would provide a stronger option for a CAP Fighter, which is a little lacking at that BR, with the only meaningful option the Hunter F1 on the TT or Hunter FGA9 if you have the premium.
With the Tornado WTD61, Tornado MFG and Tornado A200 only 0.3 BR above as well, with notably better performance in every single respect, the need to lower the Harrier GR.3 is only increased further.
The Harrier Gr3 could also receive a Phimat pod for increased survivability
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Vehicle: Harrier GR.1
Gamemode: Ground Realistic
BR Change: 9.7 ----> 9.3
Reason: The Harrier Gr1 is rather lacking in terms of performance when it comes to CAS and Britain has very little in the way of 9.7 line-up for ground. The Harrier Gr1 is weaker than the Buccaneer S2 already at 9.3 for CAS but would provide a stronger option for a CAP Fighter, which is a little lacking at that BR, with the only meaningful option the Hunter F1 on the TT or Hunter FGA9 if you have the premium. Additionally, the Harrier Gr.1 has no CMs and is unable to defend against any of the IR threats at this BR
With the Tornado WTD61, Tornado MFG and Tornado A200 only 0.3 BR above as well, with notably better performance in every single respect, the need to lower the Harrier GR.3 is only increased further.
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Vehicle: Hunter F6 (Britain)
Gamemode: Ground Realistic
BR Change: 9.7 —> 9.3
Reason: The Hunter F6 has very limited GRB potential, with a minimal A2G weapons load, especially alongside missiles and no CMs. Compared directly to the Hunter FGA9 already at 9.3, let alone other 9.3s such as the Buc S2, it is notably underpowered in this role.
The main strength for it, is the AAMs that would give a much needed CAP option for our 9.3 line-up which is about to become our primary BR of this bracket.
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