Glad we agree.
However, we’re not here to play our game, we’re here to play Gaijin’s game.
This is a make Russia win update.
Yaks in ground are already a pain. Wyvern RIP. Spitfire RIP. I was just getting into ground too. Gotta laugh. Lucky my arm is mended and im going back to work XD
War thunder really is the best/ worst at the same time.
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agreed, gripen a is another victim of su 27 and su 33, should go down as well like all other ir carriers went down last br adjustment
I see some very healthy changes and others that are more than questionable. The general way to go is moving the problematic stuff up, not down.
Already planned BR changes :
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Mode : Air RB
Vehicule : F8U2
Recommendation : 10.3 → 10.3
Reasoning :
The F8U2 is already among the best 10.3s alongside the MiG-21 SMT/MF and J35XS depending on personal preference. It absolutely does NOT need to go to 10.0 as it already broke the entire 9.0 to 10.0 BR bracket not so long ago. With CM + 4 AIM-9D, anything without flares cannot retaliate and paired with a very capable flight model it can go toe-to-toe with anything it can face. I’m convinced that at 10.0, anyone that have barely installed the game could go positive in this plane. -
Mode : Air RB
Vehicule : Spitfire Mk24
Recommendation : 6.7 → 6.7
Reasoning :
Under no circumstance should a regular prop face jets like the MiG-15 or Sabres as it is painful enough in a base Me 262. The Spitfire Mk24 should remain at 6.7. Alternatively, the BR of old legacy top tier jets could increase as I personally think they are under tiered and would almost all be fine with a 0.3 BR bump.
Additionnal propositions :
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Mode : Air RB
Vehicule : All Yak-3 Variants
Recommendation : +0.3 BR increase
Reasoning :
While props are being addressed, the Yak-3 family definitely has a place in these BR changes being more often than not the best fighter at their respective BR. The combination of turning performance, energy retention, slow speed control and overall maneuverability make them far superior to most of their peers. Especially now that their guns work as they should most of the Yak-3s need a BR increase. -
Mode : Air RB
Vehicule : F-89 B/D
Recommendation : 7.0 → 7.3
Reasoning :
The F-89 B/D are problematic. At 7.0 it’s a plane with afterburners that goes 1000+ kph except on the deck and has the same acceleration as a mig15. Sure it doesn’t have the best maneuverability but the energy it has makes everything else irrelevant. Moving it to 7.3 would be, in my opinion much fairer towards anything that it can face. -
Mode : Air RB
Vehicule : F-4C
Recommendation : 10.0 → 9.7 ??
Reasoning :
I think the F-4C deserves individual attention. It is by far the worst 10.0 in the game , with several 9.3–9.7 aircraft outperforming it. It’s issues are : No CM, 8 average missiles (4 aim9E + 4 aim7D), goes M 1.05 on the deck with a realistic combat loadout and has an objectively horrible flight model. I’m not entirely sure that it needs 9.7 either as 8.7 planes should not be able to see it. What I am sure of however is that the F-4C should only see all aspect missiles on slow/bad plateforms which is currently not the case. (MiG-21bis, MiG-25, F-5 with AIM-9L, Su-17/22, etc). I don’t necessarily have an answer but it definitely needs some attention.
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Ah yes and kill anything below
Like imagine the smt at 12.7-13.0
Sure, let’s put one of the best airframes in the entire game at 12.7 to face MiG-23s
That’s GENIUS
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every game i get its always a su30sm2 i wouldnt be maad at a j10 or j15 doing it but maaan in a notch and you still shoot down a missile headed for you
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F-4C to 9.7 never cook again bro
Play high alt with radar missiles
yea, u are right. But keep in mind that is most of the players isnt very high skilled and just casual players, who plays for fun. WT isnt game about skill and competitive gaming, so my suggestion is right. Im pretty sure it will get APFSDS anyways, no matter what we suggest there. If not in the current changes, then in the next ones. After it gets moved at 11.7 it will start getting sliced by dm53 and other top shells, so stats will drop significantly, especially in the that players hands.
A6M & A7M should stay where they are… but the Spit LF 9 absolutely should go to 6.0. Extremely overdue.
Just need to add the Yak-3U as well.
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Vehicle - Flakpanzer 341
BR - 7.0 → 7.7 (and/or make it a TD)
Reason - With the buff to the flakpanzers guns a while ago it has become even better as a TD, you can single handedly win games, its the best SPAA at 7.0 and 7.3 by far and a very good TD on top.
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we have a problem with OP stuff from any country the issue is that casually majority of it, its located in the russian tech tree and instead of playing other vehicles or looking at the point of view from people who play them you would rather say they are op cuz you struggle to play against them, you would rather call a vehicle op for having something yours dosent have than actually admit what are you doing wrong, specially if you never experience any other TT considering 99% of your gameplay its consistantly russia
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Then you understand why these suggestions are necessary.
Gaijin needs to realize that these suggestions are bad, and the alternative is decompression.
We’ve tried it my way for 4+ years, which everyone here agrees with me on.
Now we need to try it Gaijin’s way, because they clearly don’t want to do it our way.
very weird to see you not defending Gaijin for once but compression isnt the answer here and you know it.
Alot of people are fed up with the 13.3 flankers, so we just have to push for their br to increase.
It seems gaijin doesnt want to do that because of the upcomming sales
Please send it to 12.0 or add a limit it ruined 10.7
I don’t think Spitefire Mk24 deserves 7.0, 6.7 is well above what it’s capable of. Re.2005 also dont deserve the BR increase, the new event Re2005 should stay at 6.0 and the techtree one at 5.7, same as all the Japanese props. Also Bf-109K4, needs to go to 5.3, G10 and G14 should be 5.0 at most if not 4.7 since they are not much different than G6.
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Once again, you’re agreeing with me.
The point of my posts is to push for decompression.
I dont think you understand. If it kills him, then its clearly OP as he should obviously never be able to die
@Stona_WT , I hope you’re doing well!
Gaijin used to include the SB (Air/Ground Simulation Battle) ranking column, even when there were no changes. Please keep that column in mind. We exist too!
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None of the Zeros should go up in BR.
Air combat is very dynamic and hard to grasp beyond turn fighting for the average user. And in fairness to Gaijin it is hard to teach.
The Zero is the core aircraft of the Japanese WW2 tech tree. And what makes it good statistically isn’t fixed by it facing even better aircraft.
Punishing Zero players further will not fix the issue for other players. We just end up discouraging folks from playing Japan.
I vote no on raising their BRs.
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