Aircraft: Tornado IDS ( 1995), Tornado IDS MLU ( RET.8 ), Tornado IDS ASSTA1.
Air Battle BR change: 11.7 → 11.3
Ground battle Br change: 11.3 → 11
Reason: These Tornado IDS variants are severely underperforming. In Air RB, carrying only 2x AIM-9L with no SARH missiles makes them “free kills” against Gen 4 fighters due to heavy BR compression. In Ground RB, relying on LGBs is outdated; the requirement to maintain a constant laser lock within the enemy’s SAM range is suicide. The slow engagement cycle (nearly 1 minute per target) makes them far less viable than competitors. Lowering the BR is essential for their survival.
F-15A, F-15J, Baz
12.7 → 13.0 (ARB)
Reason: Just because the flankers don’t belong at 13.0 doesn’t mean this belongs at 12.7, the solution isn’t moving it down.
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As i was told i should split each Vehicle up into different posts:
(Swe) Spj fm/43-44
Ground RB: 1.7 > 2.0
Ground RB: 2.3 > 2.7
Has great armor for 1.7, making it surprisingly survivable. The 150mm recoilless gun is extremely effective and comes with a decently short reload for such a large caliber. Combined with its excellent mobility, this vehicle performs exceptionally well for its BR all the way to 3.3/3.7. Its an Amazing Bonk vehicle with great mobility and is much Immune to Heavy MGs.
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These Tornado IDS variants are severely underperforming.
Are they really though? Big difference between “Underpreforming” and just being mediocre or bad.
In Air RB, carrying only 2x AIM-9L with no SARH missiles makes them “free kills” against Gen 4 fighters due to heavy BR compression.
It’s almost like they were specifically designed with the ground strike role in mind, unlike the ADV variants
Vehicle: USS Cyclone
Mode : RB and AB
Suggestion: Move to 3.0, place at rank IV.
Reason: The vehicle has a deck ammorack that can be triggered by autocannon fire easily. Thus making it more vulnerable than preceding Kim Qui and PGM-9. Absolute nobody plays this vehicle so its performance should be manually adjusted instead of waiting for player data
One reason is that 2x25mm cannons give less damage than whole gun suite of PGM-9 and Kim Qui
Su-30MKK, Su-30MK2
13.3 → 13.7 (ARB)
Reason: These are not 13.3 planes. They were never 13.3 planes, they will never be 13.3 planes. If Gaijin refuses to move these up even though they have been the single most complained about aircraft for multiple BR changes now it’d be ridiculous.
This has been posted countless times before, but it will inevitably be posted countless times again until these aircraft actually have their BR change immunity due to their premium status removed.
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Split nr2
(Swe) Ikv 72
Ground RB: 1.7 > 2.0
Ground AB: 1.7 > 2.0
(Also switch places with the Sav m/43 (1944))
This vehicle is fast, agile, and deadly. The gun is excellent for its BR—even up to 2.7—and thanks to its APHE rounds, it can one-shot most targets with a clean penetration. It also features an impressive –20° of gun depression, allowing great use of terrain.
With its low profile, it excels at close-range brawling and flanking, taking advantage of its quick reload and powerful shells. The armor is thin, but its mobility and firepower more than compensate, making it a fantastic and highly effective vehicle.
T-72B3A
12.3 → 11.7 (GRB)
Reason: It’s just bad, it doesn’t do much over the 11.3 one if anything in real battles.
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Split nr 3
Ground RB: 2.7 > 2.0
Ground AB: 2.7 > 2.0
And remove Slpprj m/49
This tank made as a prototype by landsverk in 1940 should not have an APDS round developed in 1949.
Vehicle: Z51
Mode : RB and AB
Suggestion: Move to 4.3.
Reason: The vehicle has 4x128mm cannons, which are the armament of peer ships like USS Bagley at 4.0 or HMS Saumarez at 4.3. Z12 is also at 4.3 with one more 128mm cannon.
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So, would it be okay at BR 11.7? Would it be compatible with the F111-F and Su-24m?
Split nr4
Ground RB: 3.0 > 2.7 Ground RB: 3.0 > 3.7
Ground AB: 3.0 > 2.7 Ground AB: 3.0 > 3.7
(Optional, Remove the Slpprj m/49)
“Pvkv” or Pansarvärn-Kanon-Vagn stands for Anti-Tank Gun Carrier So you should change the designation from Medium Tank > Tank Destroyer
The Vehicle performs better against more armoured sluggish vehicles, and performs horridly against lower br tanks that are smaller faster and has a much more faster firing gun and with the low-none armour protection and low crew count and cramped turret any hit to the Pvkv IV is often a one hit death.
The Slpprj m/49 with 158mm of penetration at 500m is more than enough to take care of most if not all heavier tanks at a distance making it a excellent sniper.
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M1A2
12.0 → 12.7 (GRB)
Reason: Literally better than every 12.3 and most 12.7 tanks, just because it has worse thermals than the SEP doesn’t mean it should be so much lower. This is one of the most overpowered tanks in the game.
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I’m not saying either or for the argument, I’m just saying some of the phrases you used in it were rather peculiar.
Taking a CAS focused aircraft into ARB is very obviously going to end poorly 99% of the time.
And Saying something is underpreforming then not giving a justification on why that is… is just rather interesting.
M1A1 HC, M1A1 Click-Bait
12.0 → 12.3 (GRB)
M829A2 removed, M829A1 added
Reason: Literally better than every 12.3 and most 12.7 tanks, just because it has worse thermals than the SEP doesn’t mean it should be so much lower. These are some of the most overpowered tanks in the game. Gaijin doesn’t want to make premiums top tier so the work-around here is to give it a worse round than the M1A2 and make it 12.3 in my opinion.
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Split nr5
(Swe) Pvkv III
Ground AB 3.3 → 3.7
Ground RB: 3.3 → 3.7
(Give it the same Slpprj m/49 APDS the Pvkv IV currently has Bug report: Here)
The Pvkv III has a very strong combination of fast reload, good penetration APHEBC, and excellent gun depression, making it far more effective than most vehicles at 3.3. Its ~4–5 second reload when fully upgraded allows it to consistently out-trade and disable enemy tanks before they can respond, especially in mid-range engagements.
Its mobility is also above average for a tank destroyer at this BR, allowing it to reposition, flank, and take strong ridge-line positions. Combined with its fully rotating turret, it plays more like a flexible sniper/support tank rather than a traditional slow TD.
The 57 mm APHEBC shell is particularly lethal at this tier, often resulting in one-shot kills against common 3.3–4.0 vehicles when aimed at weak spots or sides. This gives it very reliable performance even against slightly higher BR opponents.
The high-zoom scope further enhances its long-range capability, letting it consistently pick off targets at distance with precision that most tanks at 3.3 simply cannot match.
If given the Slpprj m/49 APDS that it could fire it can comfortably deal with KV-1s and Shermans, T-34s with deadly efficiency
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M1A1 AIM
12.0 → 12.3 (GRB)
Reason: Same reasons as the rest of them above.
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IPM1
11.3 → 11.7 (GRB)
Reason: Literally better than every 11.3 and every 11.7 excluding M1A1.
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M1A1
11.7 → 12.0 (GRB)
Reason: Literally better than every 11.7 and most 12.0 tanks.
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Split nr6
(Swe) Pvkv II
Ground AB 3.7 → 4.0
Has a very strong Long 75 mm with excellent APCBC ammunition that delivers high penetration and strong post-penetration damage. In practice, it can reliably deal with vehicles up to around 5.7 when shooting from long-range positions.
The vehicle also benefits from an extremely high-zoom optic, making it a dedicated long-range sniper that can pick out targets at extreme distances with good precision. Combined with its fast reload for a tank destroyer (around 6.5–6.0 seconds fully upgraded), it can consistently follow up shots and maintain pressure on enemy positions.
It has excellent gun depression (-12°) and the gun located higher up in the turret, allowing strong hull-down usage on uneven terrain, and a fully rotating turret, giving it more flexibility than most tank destroyers at its tier. The high shell velocity further improves consistency, making long-range engagements easier and more reliable.
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