that would be unbelievably boring, esp at top tier
SPAA would be utterly useless and pointless in air battles.
You can bring your SPAA for all i care to ASB:EC but…
64 x64 kilometre map and most planes fly ~4 km altitude.
Effective gun range of ~400 meters is gonna be very boring at WW brackets even if you do sit near air superiority, bombing targets or ground battle points.
Now, I’m a pretty heavy tank only advocate but…
Can we seriously not sabotage the movement with absurd equivalences?
It’s right to point out that “I can fly my plane unimpeded for 90+ minutes and have fun without being forced into another vehicle just because of what the opponent spawns - therefore: I should be able to do the same with my tank.”
It is absurd however to make the claim of “Planes can into GRB/GSB, why SPAA not into ARB/ASB?” because it fails to pass simple logic (map sizes, effective ranges).
That was a joke mate, obviously they would not stay at their GRB BRs.
But fine I got it, everybody just wants to keep playing the same modes we have had for years and not try to think of anything that might be new or interesting and would rather just tear down ideas rather then think of ways to make them work.
They are exclusively looking at this from the perspective of the top tier SAMs at max BR. Not that a lot changes, but as you look at any SAM below the 12.0s (and even then, more than a few 12.0 ones) it just becomes absurd to consider
Fair enough
Player controlled SPAA just has a host of problems, first and foremost would be that it would be boring.
Sure, you could add a dedicated event gamemode where one team is in SPAA and has to defend an objective and the other is in aircraft, That could be fun and has the potential to be made the right way. but just regular ARB/ASB, would be terrible. Mostly for the SPAA.
Now. personally, im all for adding proper SEAD to ASB (with appropriate equipment and it not being stupidly tuned like the SPAAGs we already, we dont need more death spheres) PvE side of ASB is rather easy and stale, especially in quiet lobbies, but those shouldnt be player controlled.
Additionally. im of the strong opinion that a large part of the problem in GRB is caused directly by the poor state of the air modes.
Strike aircraft have limited to no meaningful gameplay potential in ARB, and whislt there is a little in ASB, its pretty stale and has a learning curve to it and not everyone wants Sim. Helis… well they only really have GRB.
Fixing the Air modes might transfer at least a chunk of the ground attackers back to air modes (of course it wont do all, but quite a few) but player controlled SPAAs in ARB/ASB, just has too many pitfulls, even when exclusively looking at top tier. Look below that… it just gets worse
I really like this idea, and because of that - I doubt it’ll ever happen 🫠
I’ve heard enough, buff Russia
Wouldn’t really work in low tier cuz planes are at too high altitudes so spaa is ineffective. I think in high tier it could work but would probably make the game more painful. Gaijin has already ruined ground battles by allowing aircraft. Can we not ruin air battles as well?
Having player SPAA in all AB is a great idea. Nothing would please me more than to park in AB games and wreck their games just as they wreck GB.
That said, it’ll never happen. GB exists for AC to farm points, simple as that. You need to do little more than just show up to generate enough points to spawn an egg armed plane in GB and start farming point. Complete crap design by Gaijin.
A little off topic but I wish they’d add modern spaa’s scattered in maps in ARB when anti radiation missiles get added, it would be sick to have a little SEAD/DEAD, it’d make it more fun then the current funnel everyone into a bowl TDM
Maybe because Air Battles maps are so big, that you would not meet an enemy aircraft for hours (especially in low rank)?
Please use already created threads to discuss CAS.