Looking at the current stats of the PL-15, it has less total delta v compared to the Pl-12A as well as having the same drag coefficient. If it’s added in its current state, it would be a sidegrade to the PL-12A at best and a downgrade at worst. Or since it retains pl-12 original pid terms it’ll be better for the closer range ironically hehe
Ofc all these are subject to change when it’s release draws nearer
But people object to this being added and demand Meteor, R-37M, and AIM-174B to come along with it which is absurd….
It seems it’s real life reputation may supersede its current in game implementation, which may be why people are requesting for longer range missiles to maintain parity with Chinese air which is fair.
I still think the pl-15 in the in game files is not mature and ready yet to be implemented into war thunder as of right now even though they added the dual pulse
The problem is that for example, take a look at missiles such as the PL-12/PL-12A, the developers most likely will add the PL-15 in an underwhelming state into the game right now and rely on any and all changes to be dependent on bug reports which requires valid sources on a highly secretive and classified missile, meaning it most likely would still end up being underwhelming regardless if it’s added now or later with Meteors.
I have come to terms that the missiles may not be added in a competitive state, or even added together with a competitive airframe for that matter
U have to accept what we already have and try to get it fixed i really miss my pl12 pull with j10a it use to be so good now it won’t even pull a bit and u can roll it but it is what it is
J-10A does not have R-73s
That would be a realistic option if Gaijin accepted any reports on the PL-12’s autopilot issue but that doesn’t seem to be the case from what I’m seeing.
Nevermind, I thought the PL-5EIIs were R-73s, but they just come off faster off the rails. And here I was, refusing to use the PL-8s because I would rather use a dogfight missile over Pythons.
↑This. Stock grinding top tier jets with 2 Fox3 rn and no chaff is the worst nightmare :(
I think it really doesn’t matter whether PL15 gets added to the game or not. Right now, Gaijin has put in really bad data for the PL15: first stage pulse thrust 34,500, burn time 3s (old was 34,960x3s); second stage pulse thrust 17,250, burn time 2s. Total impulse 146 kNs, specific impulse 249.5. Solid propellant 60kg.
lol ok my friend…just stop 🤣 the properties of this missile are to STRONG to be added by it self with the other Nations NOT getting their equivalent Missiles! Simple.
Agreed. It is so bad that none of my 14.3 US jets are spaded
It’s current datamine stats in war thunder is quite average in my opinion
And we know for certain that these figures are Final??? As others have said seem to be using things from the 12…I don’t think this is Final!
The person who made this thread is suggesting the PL-15 be added in its current state which would leave everyone from every nation dissatisfied in my opinion.
I ABSOLUTELY HATE adding things in a NERFD state for “Balance” it’s BS!!! Don’t add it until it’s ready!
Let me guess: you have the good data?
I definitely want to see the RaFailure slayer.
It is not for us to decide when a missile is ‘ready’ and we should not expect too much from the pl-15 and other newer active radar missiles as they will be balanced around war thunder gameplay in mind.
Due to a recent incident with bug reporting, it’ll be much harder to find sources to change or improve pl-15’s performance as well when it enters game.
