PL15 for China

Neither did he criticize anyone? I have already stated my opinion which is that PL-15 should be add with other nations equivalent like Meteor, AIM-174B, R-37 etc which is completely fair and almost everyone would agree.

I agree with what all you said except for this as stealth is very much relevant in BVR IRL and almost all modern A2A conflict happen at BVR range and not dogfighting range

Nope, dont think so.

ASRAAM was 1998. Stinger with IIR was pulled from the Aim-9X which wasnt started until after the US pulled out of the ASRAAM project and was scrapped in 2002. At least what I can find online quickly

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Which is largely what I meant. But for most “normal” operations such as QRA or CAS. The Stealth is actually just a waste of time.

Did I say that? I think I made it clear that China currently has nothing. Except for the aim120a(pl12/12a), which has the worst autopilot in the game.

Well guess what the Typhoon’s get

This has the same relation to people’s reluctance to see technology in the first person in China.
Only because they dont like it. no others reasons

Hu?

PL-12 and PL-12A were vastly superior to the Aim-120A/B/C5/D.

Then they got nerfed down to largely the same performance as the Aim-120A/B/C5/D. Which the PL-12A still holding an advantage over the Aim-120C5 and is largely on-par with the Aim-120D.

Not going to comment on the accuracy of that change, as that is an entirely separate issue which Im not well versed enough in to comment on directly

So… If China needs PL-15 because Aim-120A/B/C5/D suck and you think that PL-12/PL-12A are comprable to them. Then Surely that means that Meteor and Aim-120D3 is also required?

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what does QRA stand for?

Quick Reaction Alert.

But these days, aircraft like the Typhoon are doing more Air policing than QRA

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I would prefer improvements to the J10C and J15T, the reversal of the PL12 nerf, and a buff to the PL12A (in terms of range) rather than the addition of the PL15 in this patch.

It would be pointless for the Gaijin to add a new missile only to completely nerf it, and perpetuate the problems on the platforms (j10c/j15T) that will launch the missile.

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We should not have PL15 rn
imagine 120D hasnt gets it own HOB ability yet

Kfir C.10 is all they have…

Right, yep, give China PL-15s, I have no idea how the J-10C or J-15T can compete with the Kfir C10 :P

Sarcasm if it wasnt really really obvious

Show me how u evade aim120 like pl12 with same movement

Not quite its IR/UV rosette scan seeker.

Stinger with IIR exists?

I have never actually seen anyone actually roll a missile in a match. Not once.

and “fix this issue on the PL-12” would be the far more reasonable post than “Give Chian and ONLY China PL-15 level weapons”

Because when PL-12 and then PL-12A were really really good. Way better than AMRAAM. Im 100% certain you owuld have been against them adding PL-12 level weapons to other nations to compete right?

According to a quick google search, but was scrapped due to budgetary issue. Used a 9X seeker

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Kindly notice how NEW PL-12, ie. post nerf, pulls harder than 120D.

Skill issue, this is a basic maneuver to avoid sparrows. Also work now to pl12/pl12a

I’m not going to justify the edits. There’s a Chinese post for that.