But these days, aircraft like the Typhoon are doing more Air policing than QRA
I would prefer improvements to the J10C and J15T, the reversal of the PL12 nerf, and a buff to the PL12A (in terms of range) rather than the addition of the PL15 in this patch.
It would be pointless for the Gaijin to add a new missile only to completely nerf it, and perpetuate the problems on the platforms (j10c/j15T) that will launch the missile.
We should not have PL15 rn
imagine 120D hasnt gets it own HOB ability yet
Kfir C.10 is all they have…
Right, yep, give China PL-15s, I have no idea how the J-10C or J-15T can compete with the Kfir C10 :P
Sarcasm if it wasnt really really obvious
Not quite its IR/UV rosette scan seeker.
Stinger with IIR exists?
I have never actually seen anyone actually roll a missile in a match. Not once.
and “fix this issue on the PL-12” would be the far more reasonable post than “Give Chian and ONLY China PL-15 level weapons”
Because when PL-12 and then PL-12A were really really good. Way better than AMRAAM. Im 100% certain you owuld have been against them adding PL-12 level weapons to other nations to compete right?
According to a quick google search, but was scrapped due to budgetary issue. Used a 9X seeker

Kindly notice how NEW PL-12, ie. post nerf, pulls harder than 120D.
Skill issue, this is a basic maneuver to avoid sparrows. Also work now to pl12/pl12a
I’m not going to justify the edits. There’s a Chinese post for that.
I just prefer using this thing called “chaff”
It pulls harder off bore, but after a while aim120 pulls more, off bore is more useful though.
Nah lets not diminish how pathetically easy pl12s have become to defeat
I defeat them the exact same way I always have and will continue to defeat all Fox-3s. Notch and chaff.
Because its actually 100% reliable and it doesnt require having to guess what missile is coming at you. Some day they might also refix the PL-12.
In any case, that isnt justification for the PL-15 to be added without its peers
You’re showing me a single missile characteristic out of many. Go ahead, I gave you a video; try it with the AIm120 (you won’t get a spoiler because you can only dodge the Pl12 that way).
I do the same in most cases, but there is mo reason mot to roll a front aspect pl12.
Again. I dont think I have ever seen anyone in an actual match defeat an Aim-7 or PL-12 using this tactic. The cons seem to massively outweight the benefits.
Yeah. I know you can do it that way. But it seems like most people just dont.