They have easily the second best helicopter only this way because of how op lmurs are. If lmurs got a change in model it would be the best helicopter in the game. Ty90’s alone are a cracked missile on these helis. While china like every other single minor nation hasnt received the most meta defining things in the game.
They do however have the best abrams model in the game.
They do have one of the very few platforms capable of using a the kh missiles outside of russia.
They get two good top tier spaa.
They have a solid lineup of tanks.
They have the J7D which is arguably the best plane br for br in the game as it dominants everything at the br and is still wildly competitive in a full uptier like one of the only planes in the game that doesnt suffer from compression lmao.
The JH7 is also a monster aircraft in both its ground and air rb battle ratings lol.
Best t34 variant
They get one of the best light tanks in the game.
For a while the J11B was one of the most goated cas platforms as well.
They have one of the best 11.7 lineups in the game tbh.
Fantastic 5.7 lineup
Some of the best 9.0 range aircraft in the game.
Sure I guess these don’t fit “META defining indigenous within the last update” as the only country who got anything meta defining recently is Russia. Everyone else is well within the same boat as china right now, but to say they haven’t been given anything, and that they don’t have their fair share of good things is just a lie.
Best Abrams model… same model as the US ones
KH agms on 2TT and 1 prem
HQ-11 is good to decent, CS/SA-5 is decent to dog
J-7D fair
JH-7 depends on which one as in GRB it faces the pantsir (different issue alltogether) and is moving up anyway in BR
Best lights? VT-5, very debatale as the M10 exists at a lower BR
J-11B was a Okay cas platform compared to the EF/RAF and 30SM
Cant really comment on the T-34 as i havent played it, but iirc it only has a 12.7 over the other ones
And just in my experience TY-90 have become easier to avoid somehow even with no changes done to the and in comparison the Z-10ME has a worse A2G loadout than all the other toptier fnf as it gets only 8 heat missiles that are on par with jagm and lmur (and those heat missiles are lacking iog and gnss, but have more pen)
I can’t remember but doesn’t the chinese abrams get a slightly better thermal system? If not its still the best abrams model in game since its equal to the us one exactly then.
Once again regardless of how few aircraft get it still one of the few to get them.
The hq-11 I would rank below the cs/sa-5 especially if they ever fix dricm on helo’s as it has far better munition interception close range interception and the ir missile cant be multipath.
Both jh-7 are good the kh missile are just that good they even make the base pantsir kinda look bad.
The Vt-5 is better than the m10 better armor, pretty sure its faster and it doesnt have the ridiculous backwards looking nerf the m10 got from a cosmetic item on the side of the tank.
The j11b was pretty good having the kh is always just good and then you had maws as well which is decently helpful in ground rb. Not to mention for a while it was like the best flanker airframe in the game.
The t34 for china is the best because it gets that 12.7 its really helpful at that br.
TY90’s are still cracked and Z-10ME if they fixed the lmur would be essentially the best munitions on a fully protected jet as the JAGM just sucks. But even then china also just gets an AH-64E.
I totally forgot that there is a prem Jh-7A, but a pantsir player with a braincell will just shoot down you KH’s (but like i said the pantsir is a different issue alltogether)
Yeah iirc the only Differences between the US m1a2 sep and the 1A2T is the lack of addon era and different shell on the T
Hq-11 is good but its an single vehicle ARH spaa which puts it at a disatvantage compared to other nations (multivehicle or IR), Cs/SA-5 is only really good at shooting down drones and Munitions, the missiles can sometimes be cracked but are mostly a AFK check
Z-10 only really has 8 missile that are affective against tanks (in my experience avoiding them is quite easy too as they lack iog or gnss and the other 8 are literal AFK checks)
Ty-90 might be just a skill issue from my side
And just to add most nations have similar strenghts if not stronger at different BR’s
Tho allat doesnt excuse neutering chn top tier planes
yea bro I can fully understand that chinese top tier is decent these days. And I can explain to you that why it seems chinese player seems alway dissatisfy (or angey) to what gaijin do these day, just because gaijin have NEVER make the things related to chinese viechle correct. Whats more, as the resource of chinese viechle is already hard to found, they refuse to make correction based on the trustable resource, or even use these resource in opposite way. Nowadays, the word like “NAB”(not a bug), or “NEI”(not enough info) has already become a pejorative meme in chinese war thunder community.
but I can also list a large amount of stuff that makes we (chinese player) feel dissatisfy
When the second update after chinese tech tree join in to the game(I think is night vision or Imperial navy). its the only tank which does not have any well-covered front cover manlet (which in reality, we did) and the gun suspend in the air, which can be pened by 20mm auto cannon. This problem last from stock ZTZ96, to ZTZ 99A, none of these tank turrent protection modeled correct. we have aleady submit tons of bug report on this, but no effect. There are also several other bug about ZTZ96 series, the depression angle of turrent ring, none of the model on the tech tree are correct, the only correct one is ZTZ96B that join into the game recently, we also send large amount of report on this, but no effect. ZTZ series used to have much larger crew hit box,which have about 1.3time of normal size, we have report the bug in a few years, and the correction came like 5 major update ago. And what more interesting about the reload time fix of the autoloader which cover the chinese tank and russian tank, is cames from the Thailand VT4 resources that Gaijin used to deny. And I can more responcible to tell you that although the shape of autoloader are the same, but the auxiliary equipment of auto loader are totally different, chinese tank have already used more advanced equipment than russain tank do.
About the resource usage problem as I mentioned, its about ATF09, which mentioned as “Fix the horiziontal aiming drive speed to 15 degree per second (based on player submit resource)”. The resource do exist, and the speed of horiziontal aiming drive speed mentioned in the resource is 15 degree per second, BUT the resource mentioned the ATF09’s horiziontal aiming drive speed is 15 degree per second AS MINIMUM for a ATF09 crew menber, Not what we can see as an ACE crew member in the game.
To be honest, nearly all of the performance of chinese viechle have been underperformanced alot, the official record of DTC10-125 is over 600mm pen in 2000m range by using V50 test plate (which is what Gaijin usually shown as 0m-0degree performancefor an APFSDS), ZTZ-99 should have a scoping counter mesurement ability which will jamed and broken enemy scoping and laser coding seeker and when they trying to use laser range finder to finding the range of ZTZ99 (the interesting thing is that Gaijin have promise they will add this mechanism, but till now). ZTL11 should have huch higher reverse speed in late version. Z-10and Z-10ME have share the same pylon design for inner pylon and outer pylon,etc. These stuff is what I know, some of the viechle performance I’m not sure wasn’t even put into this list.
You mean not even separate HQ11 and CS5 when every other nations got separate AA except CN and ISL?
Not even IR Kh29 on jh7?
Not even IOG for z10me?
5 degree depression for VT5?
And now it isn’t good because the influence of the PL12 for J11B
What the hell are you even talking?
JP got the Kh38mt, you mean Kh29 is better than Kh38? Japanese just shouldn’t receive it
The best thing is Gaijin always try to shift the blame to players so they can continuing their made up nerf except RU tech tree. You are one of them target to shifting
Don’t even care about that, plus he never said that in this topic
“He’s not wrong”
You are another target where gaijin try to shift blames
They can correct the china mainland tank data, so m1 is not needed
But they chose to shifting blames to players
i was referring to this, just a point that maybe there is bugs or ignored features for china but out of all the TT in game china is in the least trouble in regards to additions and bugs.
Well if they add the SEPV3 with the APU and target tracking then it will get that thx to its upgrade package. The M1A2T has optics similar to the SEPV3 without the armor and AI target systems.
TLDR, its a watered down SEPV3 with out the armor.
I’m not stating it isn’t solid
The data they are making is incorrect plus the model of 99A isn’t correct for a long time
Do you really believe it is better than t80bvm then?