PL-12 / PL-12A Missile — Report

Bug Report: PL-12 / PL-12A maneuverability and energy retention behavior
Affected weapons:

PL-12 air-to-air missile
PL-12A air-to-air missile

Issue Summary

Under current gameplay conditions, PL-12 / PL-12A missiles demonstrate significantly reduced practical maneuverability and energy retention, particularly in medium-range engagements (~10 km head-on).

Observed behavior includes:

Missiles being defeated by high-G defensive maneuvers even within ~10 km head-on launches
Noticeable reduction of effective maneuver capability after motor burnout or near end of thrust phase
Apparent inability to fully utilize advertised overload performance in practical engagements
Reduced effectiveness compared to other modern BVR missiles in similar scenarios

This suggests a potential discrepancy between theoretical performance parameters and in-game flight model behavior.
Observed Performance Issues

  1. Maneuverability underperforming in terminal phase

Even when launched within optimal engagement range, PL-12 often fails to maintain tracking against sustained defensive rolling / high-G turns.

Public sources generally indicate:

Maximum overload: ~38G (PL-12 baseline)

However, in-game behavior suggests effective usable overload appears significantly lower in terminal phase conditions.

  1. Energy retention degradation
    Rapid loss of speed after motor burnout
    Reduced terminal energy compared to similar-generation missiles
    Limited ability to correct large angular deviations late in flight

Balance Context

Compared to other third-generation BVR missiles:

AIM-120 AMRAAM
R-77 air-to-air missile
R-77-1 air-to-air missile

PL-12 / PL-12A appears to have:

Lower practical energy retention
Less effective terminal maneuver response
Reduced reliability in high-G defensive scenarios

This results in a noticeable disadvantage in high-altitude BVR combat situations.

Public technical references (for verification)
🇷🇺 Russian technical database (airwar.ru)

https://www.airwar.ru/weapon/avv/pl12.html

Missile structure and guidance description
Active radar homing system details
🇷🇺 Russian defense encyclopedia (militaryrussia.ru)

https://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-908.html

Technical classification and development background
Comparison with other BVR missile systems
GlobalSecurity.org (US defense reference database)

PL-12 system overview
Operational capability description
Wikipedia (cross-referenced summary, multiple languages)

General specifications
Range, guidance, and development history
Personal Note (not part of technical report)

By the way, this is a PL-12 test video on Bilibili.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/vQPcL4Vo4r6d

I am a long-term player of
War Thunder
with approximately 2300 hours of gameplay experience.

I have also invested in multiple premium vehicles, including Chinese tech tree packs.

The Chinese player base represents a significant and active portion of the community, and I sincerely appreciate the continued development of the game.

This report is submitted in good faith, aiming to support constructive balancing review rather than criticism.

End

If required, I am happy to provide additional replay evidence or controlled test scenarios.

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Its a good start, but you need to report it here Community Bug Reporting System

Ok, got it

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this will get rejected

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it got rejected

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PL-12 / PL-12A Missile — Report on Performance Discrepancy Based // Gaijin.net // Issues

yeah was obvious that this will get rejected