PL-12 / PL-12A Missile — Report

yeah well

A story old as time itself really : flavor of the year plane with busted flight model / missiles that stomps on everything else

Draken => Mirage III E => Mig-21 Bis => Mig-23 MLD => F-14A => Gripen => Rafale C => ???

Can’t wait to see what’s next

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A lot of these issues aren’t things specific to China, and China can’t even be the claimer of having this be worse than the equivalents that happened to other nations.

Everyone has bad things happen to the tech tree (unless you’re russia).

The ZTZ was a god awful tank, the wz1001 was alright and they did fix both of them more than can be said for the type ten or god forbid what they did to the ariete.

The vt4 was alright but I mean atleast it has a functioning aps system unlike the kf41 which literally just killed the tank when it activated.

Cs/SA5 had issues with the IR missile, welcome to the club pal the type 93 still has bugs with its ir missile, but atleast they fixed the CS/SA5 and it had a pretty damn powerful gun.

It did get the worst missiles lmao, but they fixed them.

The J10c is just a sad aircraft especially the earlier models with the weak engine.
Its not Gajins fault china doesn’t exactly make top of the line engines.
The J15T is once again not gajins fault for how china made an aircraft that doesnt work well in the meta of a video game.

The PL12/12A is kind of true but welcome to the Aim-120 world.

So most of these things were fixed or really aren’t gajins fault and you can almost always find things that other countries have gotten screwed worse in than them or countries that are still waiting on fixes.

Didn’t realize they gave lws system thing so that fair yeah, even though most cas munitions dont really set of the lws always better to have one.

Wow what a coincidence where every nation’s fault concentrate in CN

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Are you grandpa? Or should I say is that your information was isolated
Better than those made up information than the US did

Oh you mean using exactly the same type of radar as j10c in game?
Even with a significant larger radar aperture?
And guess who got the rare earths tech which is the major of new gen radar?

Still living in last century?

Oh yeah that make sense why you thinking it is “op” because in your mind CN should be 20 century force XD

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The KLJ-10A radar is an aesa radar which and the j15 is publicly stated to have an aesa radar. Said Aesa Radar is also quoted as performing similarly to the J10’s radar system, as neither the radar system nor its actual capabilities are public other than it having similar performance to the J10’s radar system, does it not then make sense to add this then I mean if you want we could give the j15T an old school PESA radar off the su-33 prototype its based on.

Every country in the world has access to the rare earth minerals need for next gen radars china just has a lot of mines for it currently.

Chinese engines are notably further behind then Western engines Idk why you are even trying to debate this? I mean china’s brand new engines that aren’t even in mass production let alone being fielded on jets are just now stepping into the same area as western engines, their more common engines produce less, further more they all struggle on producing enough electrical power to power complex electronic suites on the aircraft.

Also idk what your point is on you’re first comment lmao, As every nation excluding like russia arguably has more problems with their tech tree and more inaccuracies and they don’t often get fixed. I mean look at the last update they finally updated the Chinese, Japanese, and Italians mbts and the only one that got better was the Chinese, as all the japanese got was a turret basket and none of the issues fixed, and the Arietes got a tiny amount of armor but got slapped with turret traverse nerfs. The Chinese mbts got their issues fixed and didnt recieve turret baskets.

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Where did you get this source? Even AVIC know less than you
Learn what is AESA and amount of T/R unit first
OR do you mean AESA is the same entire world? LOL

You mean electric is not enough so the J16D series and J15D series should like EA18 add addtional generator???
So wheres the generator yk like the small fan at the front of the pod

BTW you mean mass production like china got hundreds of new aircrafts with new gen engine, yes not the full fleet. COMPAIR with only even serveral dozens equipoed in EU contry? Which is not 100% in entire fleet so dosent mean mass production?
WHERE IS THE NEW GEN ENGINE EQUIPPED IN WESTERN?

Why F35 using dumbbell as weight instead real radar??? “mass production” you must be so proud wow

bruh full of prejudice

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Thats the type of reloader why not recieving turrent baskets
AGAIN, Chinese mbt issues still NOT FIXED and stop using multiple tech trees issue against a tech tree which combined all the others issues

Now the PL-12 has the same issue as the R-darter/Derby always had. It has trouble intercepting planes doing negative G’s or rolls.

They still pull great at off-bore shoots, but the autopilot or something like that seems broken and causes intercepting issues

You sure Max pull less than 22G can still intercept?

The derby has trouble going over 20G

Then blame gaijin instead blaming chinese player like above
player should united as this company pretty much just dictating
they just continuing close issues gain Not a Bug relate to PL12 issue

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What? I don’t understand what you are going on about. I just pointed that the PL-12 now has similar issues as the Derby already has for a long time. What’s wrong with that lol?

My bad, if you see above they just try to shift issues when we talking about PL12’s issue
Thats happening all across the Chinese equipments

This isn’t a problem exclusive to Chinese weapons though

Yeah, but when the equipment issues got concentrated in a specific tech tree, which is a problem

Why is the Derby/R-darter so easy to evade? - Machinery of War Discussion / Aircraft - War Thunder — official forum

In this video you see a similar issue. The derby has a tendency to overcorrect ahead of the predicted interception path and then fails to connect.

Same as the PL-12 now having issues with rolling maneuvers because it overcorrects too much and passes too far away from the target in the end.

The derby also pulls very little G’s for some reason, it pulls around 20G at max in optimal conditions and high speeds

Its a bit different that the seeker is fine for PL12 now, seeker continuing track the target but the missile cant due to the “fix” of stablebility of its flight path
but yes why the seeker lost that track under that rate of approch

The M10 will not be broken down by 12.7 mm, while the BR of the M10 is 10.7 while the VT5 is 11.7. … How do you put the two together and compare them and conclude that VT5 is better. …

It is Gaijin’s fault for introducing it at a completely wrong moment lmao.

The LWS won’t help against CAS, but having twice as many smoke pops helps a lot.

Lmao, there is a lot of stuff Gaijin can be blamed for regarding the J-10C.

Come back with the AIM-120 victim complex when a MiG-17 will be able to roll one.

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