I have only been playing about 180 days but I have noticed in air battles that the number of times that pilot kills or Pilot KOs happen seems to be ridiculously high. Some people have said to raise your vitality I have a couple of my crews vitality maxed out doesn’t make a difference two shots and I’m still dead. It seems from my point of view that people have the ability to Pilot snipe basically whenever they feel like it. It’s definitely a thing because there have been numerous times when the person behind me only squeezes like a quick burst off and I’m dead. The odds of you being able to snipe a pilot out of an airplane in the real world are ridiculously high but yet in this game it happens with their frequency of at least once a match that’s ridiculous. This also includes bombers there’s no way you can be able to shoot and kill both pilots in a bomber so I don’t even know how you pilot KO a bomber. In this game though I have had I got a quick two shot me and kill my bomber this is something that seriously needs to be fixed.
Well humans are squishy, but keep in mind that the crew skill bars are only 50% of the total improvement; 30% comes from Expert and 20% from Ace.
This is primarily an issue with mouse aim being a bit… overly precise.
Bomber crew deaths absolutely do need a rework. We-the-players are our entire crew, not just the pilot, and as such we shouldn’t lose control of half a dozen gunners the instant the pilot dies.
We should also have the ability to swap crew positions just like tanks can do (and ships don’t even really put crew members in specific places anyway). So long as it’s physically possible to move between positions of course (so not things like the Stuka).
As a console player I do not have the ability to aim that way. Nor should anybody else be able to do that in an aircraft.
Lmao! Console do have the ability to mouse aim… It’s just called cursor aim instead XD
Well I haven’t found a way to do that in an aircraft. It shows me a cursor when I’m at a certain distance from the aircraft but I am not able to move that cursor where I want it it goes into relation of my aircraft that is not a click and shoot thing. So maybe it’s something I’m missing but I haven’t found a way to just point out a specific part of an aircraft and shoot at it especially the pilot.
By “mouse aim” I mean Pointer Aim, and we do have that on console just the same as PC does.
Lol, think you or I is miss understanding something here… You can’t just set a key binding to shoot a certain part of an aircraft… Mouse aim is the default way you aim in ARB and AAB… You still have to aim at the aircraft certain points on the aircraft to destroy/kill them… Generally leading an aircraft center mass will result in a fire or pilot snipe…
That’s my point though pilot sniping should not occur as often as it does. Players are literally aiming for cockpits quick tapping the fire button and killing Pilots with regularity that shouldn’t be a thing. I’m not talking about sustained fire I’m literally talking like a quick tap of the fire button and the Pilot’s dead.
As for the crew situation all of my crews are experts at the minimum.
I agree with you the bomber situation needs to be reworked because the minimum I think on some of the early bombers just like three crew I could be wrong but minimum of three you kill one guy in the plane goes down makes no sense.
I mean, if you got shot with even one 7.62 I feel like in most cases that’s gonna result in death. Not to mention that many aircraft have weapons larger than this and are a lot more likely to kill someone… You know you could just start aiming for cockpits yourself and see it’s not THAT common, especially those one taps… It’s more annoying than a problem… I really hate to say this, but for what it is, it sounds like a skill issue tbh… Everyone has the ability to be handheld with mouse aim and if you’re going to get upset that people can get more pilot snipers than you that’s all it says to me… And like I said, I really hate to say that to people, but this is just screaming it to me…
Its not hard to aim for pilots you just have to not have shit aim
That’s not my point my point is it shouldn’t be an easy thing to do. You’re missing my point it shouldn’t be easy to do at all. You were in an aircraft doing 200 plus miles an hour shooting at another aircraft at 200 plus miles an hour without any kind of targeting assistance you should not be able to snipe the cockpit of the airplane.
My point isn’t about how often I do it my point is is that how often it is done it should not be that easy to do that is what I’m trying to say it is entirely too easy to kill an entire aircraft with Two Shots by aiming at a cockpit. Even in DCS the odds of you being able to kill the pilot with machine gun burst is very small it doesn’t happen with regularity. I know my skill puts me at a disadvantage because I am not comfortable with flying from inside the cockpit or in zoomed in I know that’s a disadvantage. I also understand they’re making it easier so you can hit the plane because of reality it was a lot harder than what it is in the game but I really think they’ve made it too easy to kill a plane now. With pilot sniping and people being able to blow your tail off from behind you I don’t understand the physics behind that how can somebody directly behind you blow your tail off that shouldn’t be a thing either. In lower tiers the ammunition they’re using isn’t powerful enough to rip a tail off a plane but it happens all the time. The way it is set up now they made it easier for experienced players to kill people at the same time they’re losing new people because they can’t win anything because as soon as they get started they’re dead. You can’t get better if you’re dead every time you play and the way people are nowadays nobody’s going to waste their time playing a game when as soon as they get started they’re dead.
Im not sure what you expect when a pilot gets hit by gunfire. You know they’re human, too, right?
Why not give me a good reason why i cant just kill a guys pilot
Simply because in reality the odds of you being able to do that were extremely high it was just a stroke of sheer luck that you could do that.
This is a game this isnt real life shut up don’t like it go play something else
No reason to get an attitude. Better yet why don’t you give me a good reason as to why you need to be able to snipe the pilot.
Yeah, well that kind of comes with the ability to use mouse aim lol…
Yeah, but you also don’t have the ability to fly and fight in 3rd person like in WT… Or the same mouse aim ability…
Yeah that does kind of, but I’ve found that over time as you get more experience with fighting not zoomed in you can quickly and a lot easily dogfight and pilot snipe. I’ve just started forcing myself to try fighting not zoomed in and am starting to feel comfortable with it and have very quickly started pilot sniping easily.
Yeah, and I think that may be your first mistake… You’re trying to compare this game to real life too much, and it really isn’t. And when you do it on here no one takes you seriously. Trust me, I’ve done it too
Well as for the pilot sniping from behind, deflection shots with HE hitting the canopy does do a good bit and AP rounds will just go through the plane until it hits some armor or exits the aircraft. With the tails it’s really just the HE filler and crazy high rate of fire guns that just saw them off. Again though, it’s not realistic to real life… These are WT physics
They’re also made of fabric… Literally, it’s wood and fabric and maybe a little aluminum or another light metal. They aren’t like later planes made fully of metal.
I understand what you’re saying. It is hard for people to start the game after so many years and with so many Vets playing, but it’s how you learn. Would you rather learn off of someone who just started, or someone who’s ben playing?
I mean that’s how I learned to get better. I learned through deaths and kills what to do and what not to do. When to do stuff and not to do stuff. I’m still not a perfect pilot, but a lot better because I learned from mistakes I made, or my enemies made.
Doesn’t work like that kid pulling a logical fallacy doesn’t work now tell me why i cant shoot a pilot