Let me answer this for you
No
and
No
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Are you all aware that, in reality, this missile is completely incapable of attacking moving targets? Like, not at all.
They have their correct penetration, which is all that really matters.
And yeah, F-14A and F-111F are good fighters for their BRs. Common knowledge TBH.
F-111F a Fighter, i’d never have guessed.
I thought it was an all weather attack aircraft, i mean if you think a plane that carries 2x missiles dictate that its a good fighter then so be it!
im not telepathic. i dont know that
clearly
the vehicles i have stand no chance of engaging the pantsir
i dont play top teir jets in grb anymore because the only pantsir kills i could get were when they were not looking at me
the changes to the chaff amounts in tornado did help but my favourite jet is not the tornado. its the Su-22M4 which has no place at 11.0 being upteired to face pantsirs.
im only dismissing your experience statistically.
i dont say that what you have seen is not real
you on the other hand, have said that there is no way this can happen or that can happen. and ive shown you. forget me
others have shown you.
but you have twisted my quotes and tampered with them
real life cas pilots arent so unevenly matched
they have HARMs and longer range standoff weapons
which you can detect on most RWR
which you cannot detect on most RWR
clearly everyone is not
otherwise there wouldnt be so many threads complaining about the pantsir
people are NOT happy alvis
you have to realise that
and yet there was a guarantee that you were safe above 12km from the battlefeild
pantsir ruined that for everyone except the russians
and they dont even admit that they nerfed this thing to “justify” adding the pantsir!
they couldve added the pantsir with the lesser ranged missiles but no!
they needed imbalance
they added Fox-3 for everyone at the same time
why not add pantsir equivalents at the same time?
theyre obviously capable!
they added GPS bombs for all but japan and germany while these two nations can still get them with 10 minutes more of coding!
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the official manufacturers page states that it can
lmfao wth man
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Interesting. Where did you find that?
I understand your frustration.
All I ask is you don’t dismiss my experience despite it being overtly different from yours.
Drones, or aircraft flying in like drones, dying.
I’ve taught at least 5 people how to do CAS, and Hunter has videos that have him using successful techniques.
No, because optical lock.
All 10 tech trees, including USSR, need SPAA superior to that of Pantsir.
Also, F-111F rates ~95% of how an F-14A rates.
On top of that, it barely bleeds less speed at high speeds while pulling harder:
Also, apparently Japan only equipped GPS guided bombs to F-2, which isn’t in the game.
Why don’t you bring a video?
Cause the videos are large, and that’s a screenshot of when they locked up due to over-G from a speed of mach 1.07 each.
surface targets such as ships (because the Kh-29T is usually reserved for high value targets but since it is TV locking and tracking, it can target ground targets too)
i dont dismiss it
i just deny that the picture you paint is the picture everyone else is seeing
could have been… instead they gave us the stupid paper F-16AJ
im talking about the search radar too
Check the win rates after 6 months, not after a few days
F-2 wouldn’t be 13.0 in BR though.
Also, The F-111 has a steeper [draggier in turns] auto-wing sweep.
So the only fair way to compare is semi-auto wing sweep and set to 0%, where the turning drag is less.
And F-111F has a top speed in 0% wing sweep of ~1.08 mach, so it’s good to have it set to 0% during matches, as I set F-14A to 0% as well for the same reason: Reducing speed bleed in high speed turns.
Surface targets, like ships, and moving ground targets, like tanks, are not the same thing. I remember a whole discussion about this on the DCS forum. It was also mentioned on this forum, if my memory serves me right. It’s a gameplay concession.
as far as i read about it, optical (TV) target acquisition is based on contrast locking since these missiles use the differentiability between colours to lock onto a target.
this is why they can easily miss in low light (low colour differentiability) conditions and camouflaged targets
Exactly. That’s why this missile can hit ships — because a ship stands out as a contrasting target on a uniform sea surface. But the task of attacking moving ground targets was never assigned to this missile. Its intended targets are large, well-protected stationary objects.
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true, but as long as contrast makes an object stand out from the background…
it can be used against it
Pantsir domination
(this is back when GBUs were only able to be destroyed by guns)
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