Petition for remove or nerf pantsir s1

No one said anything about being annoyed or mad.
I was drawing comparisons.
You seem to have forgotten that.

And Pantsir can defend itself to a certain extent with its guns.
FlaRakRad cannot even do that.

Still insist these are two equal platforms?

And even as a USSR main, I don’t think those heli nerfs were bad. The recent ones with avionics are terrible ngl, but for the sake of balance and realism the nerfs before hand were good.

The Flak definitely stood king a bit longer than that.

Oh the Pantsir can, can it? Willing to prove that? -1 gun depression on a very high frame pretty much means the enemy has to be above you.

As for the flak, it can over pressure enemy tanks fairly well, it’s certainly no Adats, but everything has its pros and cons.

Hahahahahahahahaha

Dude Russian helicopters (IRL) are complete pieces of shit what are you smoking.

Would love to see expanded A2G/Wild Weasel armament and ARM missiles. But at the same time we need more AD options before that’s really a thing. Currently Russia has a capable high level AD system. Every nation should have a long range AD system that isn’t out ranged by helicopters or fighter.

Parity for all sides is needed.

The number of times I’ve seen the pantsir completely eviscerate light tanks and knock out barrels tracks and sights on mbts is the proof i need to know it can.

And btw the VT-1 is no where near as effective in Overpressure as you paint it to be.
It barely does the job agains composite and not to mention era roofed russian tanks.

“Is the proof I need to know it can”
Hmm, that’s not convoluted

Weird… 6 kills, also weird. 100 kills… on brain dead usa pilots… soooo op

So a 2.08 kd for 12 aams… sooooo good

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How exactly? ItO-90M is honest to God outright better, with wider radar search angles, longer radar detection range (iirc), has more ready-to-fire missiles & is more mobile last I checked. The moment it was added, FlaRak’s reign ended.

a close up of a stuffed monkey wearing a green shirt and blue jeans .

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last i checked i was looking at vehicle capability.

not YOUR capability.

you are assuming all SAMs are launched in every game.
which is bullScheiße

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i mean… i drove the flak bus and its awful in acceleration and mobility lol

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ITO has 10hp/t SPADED
I will be on my PC in like, hmm ,10h, then i can record it.

well i mean… flakbus has 11.5hp/t with a much worse turning performance lol

wikipedia says its range is 18km so i think they should decrease its range to 18km and move plane spawn point to 20km away from battlefield

killing pantsir is not that hard, a low number of its players know how to use it smartly, but you have to fly low and surprise it from different directions, moving plane spawn point to 20km is a good choice for battles over 12.0 battle rate. so you can be saved from spawn kill lol

some people want to fly in medium alt, wihtout any threat to them and fire their missiles to tanks in peace lol in real world its almost impossible with enemy spaa presence. fly very low, use rockets and bombs, also carrying a few agm missiles are good too, my weapon preset for su-22m4:
two kh29t, 5 medium rockets (in one rocket launcher), three bombs. i fly low to enemy and when its a pantsir, i use those rockets so if he kill me at least i kill him too, if pantsir is engaging a target, its easy for you to kill them, use surprisable directions to kill them easier lol

increasing alt is a stupid thing in high battle rate matches, i see many su-22m3 users drop bombs then climb up, then guess what happen to them, boom! lol if you flying low, keep flying low even after killing enemy

Lmao I never said that’s all fired, but typically it take 2-3 to kill a high alt. F-16C dropping gbus on aa in the spawn.

I’m talking about time frames

Oh no

It is because it has 5 speed gearbox which does not exist for the MAN 8x8.
It should have 12 speed transmission.

I think there was a bug report about the FRR having the wrong gearbox iirc